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Captain Hook

Posted by Maddog @ 11:04 on October 30, 2014  

The only real story out there is the Rig…..no real punter/investor/hedger sells 70 tonnes of Gold on the crimex in less than 3 minutes etc. as happened when we sniffed 1250 on 15 Oct …..or if they did, they were fired the next minute and they sure wouldn’t still be around doing it whenever the mkt looked even slightly bullish, unless that is what they are employed to do….

 

Anyone can take any mkt anywhere they want if they never pay a a margin call and that is what the Rig is doing ……not just in PM’s either.

As I said ystdy, they may not do any more QE, because the Rig is working perfectly….we all just have to Believe !!!!!!!!!

Cheers.

North

Posted by Maddog @ 10:53 on October 30, 2014  

re Petch

He may be right about the mkt correction not ending for @ 7 years, as he is assumeing that the 2nd wave will be as long in time as the 1st, which was 11 years.

What he has in his favour if 1180 goes then we will have done 5 waves down from the 1900 Hi, for an A only, then we have to do 3 waves up for the B, and then the horrible 5 waves dn for C. that will complete a 3 wave correction from 1900.

but what he doesn’t know or anyone else, is where does this A end…it might end at 1170 !!!!, but time says not , as waves 1 and 3 of this A were both 9 months and so far we are in month 4 of the 5th. Again there is no guarantee that each wave is equal in time.

Also Wave B can take out the 1900 Hi, if it is a running B, something that happens in very strong mkts and the horrible C  may only go sideways, as opposed to down. So Wave C of  2 could end above 1900….unlikely. but it can.

All of the above ignores the Rig….which I think rules all major mkts.

 

 

 

 

Wednesday-Trader Dan=it does look as if Mr. “gold will be well north of $2000 before the end of this year and silver north of $50” has struck out once again.

Posted by Richard640 @ 10:24 on October 30, 2014  

While this will not endear me to gold bulls, gold was flattened on the FOMC news and is currently down over 1%. The HUI is a bloodbath having fallen 3.25% at this time while the junior-laden GDXJ is being soaked, down 5.55% at this moment.

Incidentally, it does look as if Mr. “gold will be well north of $2000 before the end of this year and silver north of $50” has struck out once again. I am not trying to rub salt into a wound – I am merely repeating something I have said here repeatedly in an attempt to teach and WARN readers – DO NOT FOLLOW ANYONE who claims to know in advance where a market is going. Here is the truth – THEY DO NOT KNOW in spite of their hubristic and reckless claims to the contrary.I honestly believe we going to see some junior miners disappear before this is all done. Be careful what you buy out there if you want to be a “hero contrarian” and start buying junior miners.

Take a look at this ratio chart briefly comparing the HUI to the price of gold and creating a ratio. It hit a level that was last seen – are you sitting down as you read this – December 2000! That is FOURTEEN YEARS AGO.

I said this before in a recent post and will say it again now, either the price of gold is too high and needs to fall further or the mining stocks are undervalued against the price of gold and need to move higher. Based on what I am seeing today, I see nothing to persuade me any differently. I still think gold is heading lower. Either that or some of these mining companies are history.

Notice on the gold chart that the metal has fallen to the support zone marked near the $1220-$1210 level. It is currently BELOW that level. the way it is trading at the moment ( and of course this could change) it does look as it a test of $1200 is coming. The reason I say that is because the price has fallen well below the middle line of the Bollinger Band indicator with the lower band sitting near $1197.

The ADX is still choppy suggesting that this move is a move back to the bottom of a wide range that has been in place for nearly a month now. However the clear break to the upside of the -DMI (red line) shows near term momentum with the bears.

To get out of the mess that they now find themselves in, the bulls are going to have to clear that downtrending 50 day moving average again. That is way up there near $1240 at the moment.

Proof is in the price chart for the metals but I can say the same thing about these grains. Most of us who trade the grains for a living all had ideas where we thought the grains were heading. Most of us were also wrong!

Is it any wonder?

Posted by Captain Hook @ 10:24 on October 30, 2014  

Is it any wonder precious metals continue to fall, when instead of buying the metals and shares, speculators continue to play the derivatives, which controls price trends with permanently bullish sentiment set against Wall Street machines programmed to exploit this mania. That’s right, precious metals speculators are locked into a reverse mania of sorts, constantly gaming a bottom, which will continue to be illusive, as long as this behavior persists.

I do not neccessarily agree with Dave that precious metals are going to lower lows 5 years from now because many things can happen between now and then, however, if faulty and fraudulent US pricing mechanisms are still setting world prices then, and speculators maintain the same betting practices, you should know anything is possible if this is already not evident to you. The all important open interest put / call ratio on SLV has dropped to .25 as greedy specuators continue to buy the dip. That’s 4 calls for every put, a record low. That’s why prices are falling today, because the machines are having a field day, and it’s not much better in GLD, GDX, and NUGT. And COMEX open interest is at record levels, with speculators the culprit here again. The New York bankers laugh at you because you are not watching true sentiment and they can count on you to be greedy bastards.

My question(s) to these people is ‘how’s that trade working out for you?’ Are you making more? Isn’t 10x your money in physical enough for you?  All we need is true price discovery in the physical market.

All you gotta do is stop playing that crap.

Happy trails

Dave Petch

Posted by North @ 9:44 on October 30, 2014  

http://www.kitco.com/ind/Petch/2014-10-29-Gold-s-Obituary.html

Hiya buymore

Posted by ipso facto @ 9:21 on October 30, 2014  

🙂

Floridagold @ 9:08

Posted by ipso facto @ 9:15 on October 30, 2014  

I don’t eat soup for breakfast much but when I do …

Good morning Oasis … you too Buygold

Posted by ipso facto @ 9:14 on October 30, 2014  

Centerra Gold Reports Third Quarter Results

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/centerra-gold-reports-third-quarter-213000529.html

Barrick Gold third-quarter earnings slide, cuts 2014 cost forecast

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/barrick-gold-third-quarter-earnings-214456645.html

Royal Gold Reports First Fiscal Quarter 2015 Earnings of $0.29 per Share

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/royal-gold-reports-first-fiscal-230000446.html

OceanaGold announces results for third quarter 2014

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/oceanagold-announces-results-third-quarter-090000678.html

Goldcorp Announces Third Quarter Operating and Financial Results

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/goldcorp-announces-third-quarter-operating-120000612.html

Another great quarter for Lakeshore

Posted by ipso facto @ 9:06 on October 30, 2014  

Lake Shore Gold Reports Strong Operating Performance, Increases Cash and Achieves Exploration Success in Third Quarter 2014

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/lake-shore-gold-reports-strong-002001616.html

Silver Train

Posted by Maya @ 9:04 on October 30, 2014  

I’m with MadMike on this one!  More of that Coffee, please!

Some days just ain’t right!

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=114354

 

Buygold-Yes, PM shares are truly the pariah of the investing universe-

Posted by Richard640 @ 8:35 on October 30, 2014  

But I keep thinking about what u said: The HUI is close to the 2008 low–when spot gold bottomed at 681 & NOW IT’S 1200….take JNUG…PLEASE! JUst kidding Rodney…anyway, JNUG was down 20% yesterday and another 6% in the pre-mkt-at that rate it’ll be half a buck sometime next wk….Hee Hee!

BUY ANOTHER IOOO!   GOLD TO DA MOON! ETC ETC BLAH! BLAH!

When will the Rig end

Posted by Maddog @ 8:28 on October 30, 2014  

The Cartel seem all powerful from inside the country, but to maintain the Rig an awful lot of people have to be involved/bought off. But a far,far larger number have to be pissed off, tks to the lousy real economy.

A while back we bugs were almost alone is believing in the Rig, now it is going mainstream almost, with the likes of Roberts and Stockman, people who were once quintessential insiders, but who now openly accuse CB’s of rigging all mkts, governments of lieing on all official figures etc etc. Hell ZeroHedge are running stories 24/7 about it all. My guess is that more and more will open up as to what is going on, which will compound the disgust people have with existing political parties, all of whom not only accept, but aid and abet Bankster criminality  and vote in new ones, such as the Tea Party in the US, UKIP in the UK, AFD in Germany, Grillo in Italy and Le Front National in  France etc

Stories like this

http://nypost.com/2014/10/25/former-cbs-reporter-explains-how-the-liberal-media-protects-obama/

Then we have this delightful tale of how the the Kings of Fall st really behave….yes it really is about hookers, 3somes and Bolivian marching powder.

http://nypost.com/2014/10/29/investor-husband-pushed-me-into-sex-for-biz-deal-estranged-wife/

Not only are these pigs pissing off the rest of their countries peoples, they are pissing off the rest of the World, especially anyone who produces Commodities. Yes today they have an awful lot of power, but there are very few of them and unless  they cancel the vote, they can be kicked out easily and the rise of all these new parties says,  that it will happen before too long.

 

 

 

I’ve made some bad decisions in my life

Posted by deer79 @ 8:15 on October 30, 2014  

But the worst has to be to ever get involved and believe that investments in this sector would pay off handsomely. I know I have to move on in my life, but I still beat myself up over it.

Morning Oasis – you too R640

Posted by Buygold @ 7:59 on October 30, 2014  

R640 – it appears pm shares can and are going lower today. How much is anyone’s guess. Amazing that they can find 5-10% a day to fall, day after day. Nothing quite like them in the known universe.

Will be interested to see if the SM throws a fit now that QE is finished.

Course the most important news of the day is AAPL Ceo Tim Cook said he’s proud to be gay. Nothing else really matters does it?

Coffee’s on

Posted by MadMike @ 5:07 on October 30, 2014  

bailey's

To hell with coffee. I’m raiding Ladybug’s stash.  Looks like another bad day in store for gold & silver.

Usdx and bonds

Posted by redneckokie1 @ 23:21 on October 29, 2014  

Flirting with resistance again. Seems the fed couldn’t get them through yet. Tomorrow could be pivotal .

rno

This just in courtesy Buygold=The HUI is almost as low as it was in 2008 when gold hit 681

Posted by Richard640 @ 23:04 on October 29, 2014  

Ya might say PM stocks are cheap relative to the current Dec Crimex gold contract-conclusion:

A. Time to buy PM stocks?

B. They can go much lower?

C. You tell me….

@NEW YORKERS, D’ONT FORGET, DUMP CUOMO

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 21:53 on October 29, 2014  

Anybody that passes laws behind closed doors at night, no public input has to go. He’s probably a Bloomberg lackey too. Anybody that says to a tax paying citizen…..

“You can have only allowed a 10 round magazine, and you can only put 7 rounds in the 10 round mag”, is a very immature person. Somewhat vengeful. Disrespectful too. Gun owners are a group of people, that do not deserve prejudice.

Perhaps they need to pass legislation, like they did for blacks, woman, gays, minorities, immigrants etc. Go against them and its a hate crime and big trouble. Gun owners need protection from hate mongers.

Pretty much my sentimets and no one has answers – Not even Bill

Posted by Buygold @ 21:44 on October 29, 2014  

Hello Bill,
As you know I’ve been with you for many, many years – through the ups and disappointedly, the downs. I’ve enjoyed the PM enthusiasm and analysis of you and your contributors. However, The one big miscalculation that I think you, me and the others have made (and continue to make) is in failing to fully recognize the limitless, unrelenting power and control that the central banks, on-the-take monster banks, wall street, the regulating system(?), and congress, (the cabal elite) have over the market system. I have finally reached the conclusion that they can keep this thing going for about as long as they want to, in spite of our meager protestations to the contrary. I don’t know about you, but I don’t have that long. Their leftist greed already has destroyed our nation and culture, even as it continues to get worse.

I am now net negative to when I began investing in PM in 2000. It’s clear I have not been a good investor (gambler) who has continued to bet on the wrong horse for all of the right reasons. Having gone this far, I know of no escape from my financial wipe out that lurks on the near horizon. Surely selling my PM stocks this late in the game would be foolish; however, continuing to watch them crash daily without recovery of any kind is a recipe for yet further disaster. It is quite a conundrum. I, probably like others am beyond the point of no return. I’ve held on tightly to this point, but feel like a fool to continue, as I must.

I’m further disappointed to hear that our spokespersons at the NO Investment Conference could not take advantage of the situation with Greenspan when they certainly had the opportunity to nail him. Apparently we as a group are as inept as our other “leaders”. I have lost confidence that anyone from our camp knows how to deal with the cabal forces, formidable as they are.

When/where will it change? I’ve heard “the bottom is in” for at least two,years now. Life’s a beach, ain’t it?
JS

Hello JS,
Three points to make…

*We have underestimated the degree to which The Gold Cartel would go to bury the gold and silver prices … the extent to which they would use derivatives and central bank supply to suppress the prices.

*The last 3 to 3 ½ years have been wearing on everyone in the industry and most of all those invested in the shares. I don’t know anyone who isn’t disgusted with the mess. However, it is what it is, with nothing yet in sight that tells us a lasting trending change is at hand. At the same time, the big picture is more bullish than ever … with the odds of gold taking out $2,000 and silver heading for $100+ very high. The move will commence when The Gold Cartel hits the physical market wall and is forced to retreat. As for the timing, all we can do is watch for clues that we are there. The first one for me will be to see silver close a couple of times above $17.60.

Another factor to keep in mind, and why many of us hang in there, is that the next move up is likely to be violent and come out of nowhere. Many who are not onboard will find it difficult to pay up to get back in. There will be many who are waiting for a big dip which never comes. The momentum investors will jump in and clean up.

*As for the Greenspan mess, you can lead a horse to water, but can’t make him drink. All Gary Alexander had to do was read the question CP gave him. How complicated is that? As is, we set up everything with our presentations to the conference attendees. What else could we do?
Bill

WANKA @ 20:11

Posted by silverngold @ 21:39 on October 29, 2014  

Very cool, thanks for sharing. My bet is the guy is NOT a goldbug. Wrong color!! I get the feeling he is being very careful with that flight but very innovative anyway. LOL!!!

Hi…. how ya’ll doin

Posted by buymore @ 20:59 on October 29, 2014  

it has been awhile. Almost time to

buymore

and cheers to you winedoc

Posted by aurum @ 20:19 on October 29, 2014  

I am thinking about breaking out the good stuff – still better wait until the money is in the bank – eh?

6533l

aurum

Posted by Farmboy @ 11:43 on October 15, 2014

Posted by aurum @ 19:58 on October 29, 2014  

The long grain bet that I posted has worked exceptionally well.

I am thinking I should not be greedy.  So I will sell most/all of my long corn and bean positions and finally retire for good.  That bet has done well for Barney and I and we should have no money worries in the future.

aurum

WANKA @ 17:13

Posted by silverngold @ 19:24 on October 29, 2014  

Says 404 file not found!

Why didn’t silver go down more?

Posted by Buygold @ 18:27 on October 29, 2014  

Will be interesting to see if the SM can hold a bid for the next few days and how they manipulate the jobs report next week. I still think QE will be reenacted but they’ll need a reason.

As for the miners, they are a life ruining investment.

As for Larry Edelson, Id’ like to see a 7.62 x .39 blow thru his forehead.

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