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A great article by Adam Hamilton=heavy-pm-shorting-bullish

Posted by Richard640 @ 15:53 on September 13, 2014  

Already having a heavily-bearish bias and forced by leverage to be short-sighted, American speculators jump on every opportunity to sell gold futures. And that is exactly what happened to gold and therefore silver over the past month or so. Gold would droop for a couple days, futures traders would rationalize that as confirmation of their bearish theses, so they would sell more gold futures and amplify its decline.

This creates a vicious cycle. And in the absence of normal levels of gold investment demand thanks to the Fed’s artificial stock-market levitation, there isn’t enough offsetting physical buying. So futures selling dominates the gold price, and it slumps towards lows. The funny thing is these extreme bets against gold by such sophisticated traders always prove wrong, as gold rallies right at their peak bearishness!

This first chart looks at American speculators’ total long and short positions in gold futures, which are reported each week in the CFTC’s famous Commitments of Traders reports. On top of these collective bets the gold price is overlaid, as seen through the lens of the flagship SPDR Gold Shares ETF (GLD) that stock traders prefer. The worst time to be bearish on gold is when futures speculators force it near lows.

 

And that’s exactly what’s going on today. Around $1250 gold isn’t far above its June 2013 low of $1199, its December 2013 low of $1190, and its June 2014 low of $1244. Seeing gold and therefore GLD shares heading towards the bottom of their 15-month consolidation trading range makes investors and speculators very nervous and bearish about gold’s prospects. It feels like gold is ready to fall off a cliff.

At times like this, nearly everyone is bearish except the hardcore contrarians. We humans have a natural tendency to extrapolate our present conditions out into infinity. We want to assume that trends in force today are going to persist indefinitely. This dangerous assumption is why the vast majority of traders lose money in the markets. They succumb to the herd groupthink and popular emotion near extremes.

That fails because the markets are forever cyclical. Once everyone is bearish, the selling has already happened and a reversal is imminent because only buyers remain. So it is foolish to sell low in the midst of extreme popular bearishness. Yet since nearly everyone wants to feel accepted by their peers, to believe markets move in the same direction forever, bearish calls abound right as prices are actually bottoming.

The elite and highly-respected Goldman Sachs is a prime example of this, reiterating its 15-month-old (and wrong) forecast that gold will fall to $1050 by the end of this year. Each time gold nears the lower support of its bottoming consolidation trading range, this high-profile bearish call gets much attention. But Goldman Sachs, along with all of Wall Street, is merely a weathervane extrapolating current trends.

Back in August 2011 when gold was skyrocketing and a few contrarians like me were warning that it was way overbought and due for a serious correction, Goldman Sachs was wildly bullish on gold. It came out with report after report upping its gold price targets over all time horizons. It declared that a year later, gold would be around $1860. But a year after that euphoria, gold had slid down near $1600!

Goldman Sachs is bullish on gold or stocks or anything when they are high and topping, the exact wrong time to be. And it is bearish on gold when it is low and bottoming, the smart time to be bullish. As a herd, American futures speculators are the same way. They are weathervanes that reflect prevailing sentiment, with no desire to fight the crowd to buy low and sell high. This is crystal-clear in this chart.

Note that the blue GLD-share price has a strong and nearly perfect inverse correlation with the total level of American futures speculators’ gold shorts. Just as this elite group of traders is the most bearish on gold as evidenced by their real-money bets, gold is bottoming and on the verge of a sharp rally. This happened in mid-2013, late 2013, mid-2014, and is almost certainly going to happen again soon here today.

After Q2’13’s epic once-in-a-century gold plunge, American futures speculators were so convinced that gold would spiral lower indefinitely that their bets against it surged to an at-least 14.5-year high. It may have even been an all-time record. But defying these guys, gold soon rallied sharply. Extreme gold-futures shorting is inherently self-limiting, as it sets the stage for massive and frantic short covering.

When everyone thinks gold is doomed to spiral lower forever, everyone who wants to sell gold futures has already done so. Traders with long-side bets who succumbed to the bearish groupthink are already out, and traders with the cojones or hubris to make hyper-leveraged short bets have already laid them in. And with essentially no futures sellers left, that leaves only buyers. So a minor gold rally can quickly explode.

At relatively-conservative-for-futures-traders 20x leverage, a 5% gold move against their bets will erase 100% of their capital risked. And it doesn’t take much at all to spark 1% to 2% up days in gold that will trigger nearly instant 20% to 40% losses for these speculators. A material stock-market down day, a worse-than-expected economic report, some geopolitical flare-up, many things can ignite a sharp gold rally.

And when leveraged futures speculators see 20%, 40%, 60% of their capital risked annihilated in a day or two, they have no choice but to cover. In the futures realm, shorts are covered by buying offsetting longs. So in terms of positive price impact, there is zero difference between adding a new long and buying one to offset and close a short. As speculators buy to cover, the gold-price gains naturally start accelerating.

http://www.gold-eagle.com/article/heavy-pm-shorting-bullish

Thanks a lot, Larry Edelson, for nothing…

Posted by Richard640 @ 15:30 on September 13, 2014  

Have been following self annointed gold guru Larry Edelson the n.o. 1 world gold expert(according to him). June 2013 Golds explosive move higher is so close I can smell it….Today whilst thousands of $ down (self) he has just posted …If 1240 doesnt hold on a weekly closing basis its lights out for gold !!! Thanks a bundle Larry

http://www.gold-eagle.com/daily-gold-chat

WANKA @ 14:28 Yeah, That Buygold Might Be Good For A Lot of Things…

Posted by Farmboy @ 14:52 on September 13, 2014  

but making coffee aint his forte. If he even has an internal coffee clock, I’m pretty sure it runs backwards. 🙂

 

About time for the Dawgs to play a little football so going to find me a soft spot, kick back, and catch some of the game.

 

Hold it down on the reef. No making excessive noise, shouting, screaming, jumping up and down, unless the Dawgs score of course.

 

Catch up with you fellas later, Farmboy

MadMike @ 13:54 Thanks For Solving The Mystery….

Posted by Farmboy @ 14:48 on September 13, 2014  

there I was in the bar, lost in deep thought and contemplating the meaning of life, not to mention the contents of the Meatloaf Surprise the barkeep had just served up. Missed the fact that Superman had swooped in and drank my bottle of Johnny Walker Red. Always wondered how that bottle was emptied so quickly. 🙂

 

Seems I have been tormented many a year by folks swooping in on me. Some with capes, some with brooms, all with magical super powers. (grin)

 

Good to see you staying in touch with some of the old gang. Those days made for some good friends.

Farmboy

Posted by MadMike @ 13:54 on September 13, 2014  

Thanks, friend.

And you are still my superhero…toon1l

bad day for farmboy

 

Mad Mike, Thats About The Sorriest Looking Lot….

Posted by Farmboy @ 13:41 on September 13, 2014  

Training Mission….?? Looks more like you fellas just drank the bar dry and trying to hitch a ride on an air taxi home.

 

Thanks for sharing the smiles. And some good memories…….

 

Hey, at least you learned how to make coffee. I think they should recycle Buygold. 🙂

 

Best to you and Ladybug, Farmboy

 

 

On a slow Saturday, something from the vault of history:

Posted by MadMike @ 13:21 on September 13, 2014  

Got this recently from an old Army buddy.

MadMike’s squad just before some helo training, circa 1981.

That cocky bugger in the middle, flipping the bird to the photographer, is MadMike.

Oh, how times have changed…

G & S F section

a question

Posted by drb2 @ 12:36 on September 13, 2014  

I would really like to know what China means by this !

I can’t imagine China wants to pay more $$ for gold.  Could it be China that is trying to knock the price down,  so they can get more of what we don’t seem to want?

 

“The board is China’s bid to deepen its influence over the global gold market, where China is the biggest producer and consumer but sees itself as lacking clout in pricing.

“This is our window to the world,” Shen Gang, the bourse’s deputy chief executive, said at an industry conference on Thursday.”

Buygold – Shanghai exchange

Posted by drb2 @ 12:30 on September 13, 2014  

ha!  looks like you found more info on the exchange, while I was writing my post.

From your post it  looks like the Camel OWNS the tent!      sheesh – what did I expect?

Buygold – Your 10:52 post – Shanghai Gold Exchange

Posted by drb2 @ 12:24 on September 13, 2014  

the post said Singapore, but I think you mean the “Shanghai” Gold Exchange… as the Singapore” Gold Exchange opened 7/6/2013 according to this link.

World’s first Physical Gold, Silver Exchange starts in Singapore | Singapore | SCRAP REGISTER NEWS

I have been looking forward to the opening of this (China) exchange for some time – hoping it will offer some competition to the corrupt COMEX.
I got an opening date of 9/26/14 from the article below a long while back. One would think there would be a lot more publicity surrounding this event. I worry the the ‘Camel’ (JPM & friends) has long ago gotten it’s nose, and more, under the tent.
Isn’t it sad to hope that fair and honest trading will have to come from offshore?
Shanghai Gold Exchange plans FTZ contract for September

Author: Bloomberg News

Posted: Monday , 18 Aug 2014

(Bloomberg) – >

The Shanghai Gold Exchange plans to start bullion trading in the city’s free-trade zone on Sept. 26, according to three people with knowledge of the matter.

The people asked not to be identified because they aren’t authorized to speak to the media. Gu Wenshuo, a spokesman for the exchange, confirmed that the trading system is being tested, without giving further details.

Shanghai wants to become a regional bullion-trading hub, giving foreigners access to the world’s largest physical-gold market, Xu Luode, the exchange’s chairman, told a conference in Singapore in June.

The gold contract will be priced and settled in yuan and the infrastructure is in place for trading to start in the third quarter, Xu said in June. The zone will have a vault capable of holding 1,500 metric tons of gold, which can either be imported into China or be in transit to other markets, Xu said.

China is seeking to open up its bullion markets just as domestic demand weakens. Consumption contracted 19 percent in the first six months of the year, according to the China Gold Association. Bullion of 99.99 percent purity traded on the Shanghai Gold Exchange climbed 8.7 percent this year, damping demand which reached a record in 2013.

To contact Bloomberg News staff for this story: Feiwen Rong in Beijing at frong2@bloomberg.net <frong2@bloomberg.net>; Glenys Sim in Singapore at gsim4@bloomberg.net <gsim4@bloomberg.net>

To contact the editors responsible for this story: James Poole at jpoole4@bloomberg.net <jpoole4@bloomberg.net>

More Shanghai Gold Exchange – looks like some of the same rotten apples there

Posted by Buygold @ 12:19 on September 13, 2014  

BEIJING—The Shanghai Gold Exchange will launch its international board on Sep. 29 in the financial hub’s new free-trade zone, a widely anticipated move to open China’s tightly controlled gold market to foreign capital.

The board is China’s bid to deepen its influence over the global gold market, where China is the biggest producer and consumer but sees itself as lacking clout in pricing.

“This is our window to the world,” Shen Gang, the bourse’s deputy chief executive, said at an industry conference on Thursday.

The first batch of 40 members in the Shanghai bourse’s global pricing platform include Goldman Sachs GS +1.20%   HSBC to Pay $550 Million to Se…     Group, HSBC Bank PLC, Standard Chartered STAN.LN -0.08% Standard Chartered

The yuan-denominated board will initially offer 11 contracts including physical gold contracts of 100 grams and one kilogram. The Shanghai exchange also plans to diversify into contracts for other precious metals such as silver and palladium in the future, Ms. Shen said.

The move comes at a time when gold prices have been languishing amid relatively low inflationary pressures world-wide. Gold prices have fallen 10% from their peak this year in March, as a stream of positive U.S. economic data bolstered dollar strength

http://online.wsj.com/articles/shanghai-gold-exchange-to-launch-international-board-on-sept-29-1410423811

Floridgold re: Shanghai, Gold, China

Posted by Buygold @ 10:52 on September 13, 2014  

“Then comes 22nd September when GOFO rates will cease to be promulgated. Is it just a coincidence that this is the day when the Singapore exchange is scheduled to launch its futures contracts to be settled in physical gold. SGX’s market place will enable the trading and clearing of the Singapore kilobar gold contract and establish a fully transparent price discovery mechanism for gold in this region. Normally one can confirm most things on the internet, but I have been unable to sight any recent confirmation of this launch date. Be that as it may, there may be some forthcoming events that will severely challenge the algos’ ability to rule the world.”

Hoping this might be why pm’s have been so violently attacked since the beginning of Sept. I’m with Ipso, really want to see the crooks removed/challenged as a pricing mechanism.

Floridagold @ 9:09

Posted by ipso facto @ 10:32 on September 13, 2014  

Man I’m looking forward to the day that the Crooks don’t set the gold price. Our time is coming.

🙂

Portugeezer @ 6:07

Posted by ipso facto @ 10:16 on September 13, 2014  

Thanks Portugeezer. It looks like Portugal will be better off than lots of countries if TSHTF. Plus you have put lots of thought into your place in the scheme of things. I wish you luck with your endeavor.

ipso

Yo Maya ! Kinda Hurtin For Some Train Pics….Just Saying

Posted by Farmboy @ 10:14 on September 13, 2014  

Maya MIA

Floridagold, Thank You Sir !

Posted by Farmboy @ 9:54 on September 13, 2014  

Perfect. How I see it, had the little rise for the Christmas stocking up season,  and soon it will be rolling over. Recovery….(snicker)

 

A little local sidenote: The big box stores (Walmart etc) have cut back on their ordering of products for the past 6 months. Plenty of bare spaces on shelves. Which to my limited knowledge of retail is a big no no in the biz. Can remember Walmart spending a lot of money hiring ‘stockers’ whose job besides putting product on the shelving also spent a great deal of time ‘facing’ the shelves. If they only had a few cans of beans, they would pull them to the front of the shelve so the store at least had  the appearance of being fully stocked. Seeing a lot of bare spaces and holes on the shelves. So either folks are buying a whole lot more ( I doubt it) or they cant get product ( a little scary thought) OR…they are not ordering in the quantities they used to. Another one of those indicators we can see for our own eyes how things are going.

 

Floridagold @ 8:43 Good Morning & Thanks For The Coffee

Posted by Farmboy @ 9:22 on September 13, 2014  

You know me, of simple mind. And with a certain mistrusting slant of most figures and numbers. Seems the Baltic Dry Index is the best idea of the world’s economic health. And last time I looked, it was not hinting towards any ‘recovery’. If you can find a recent chart and post it I would appreciate it.

 

Go Dawgs ! Go Gators ! Go Gold !

Social Status

Posted by commish @ 5:35 on September 13, 2014  

Ororeef

Posted by goldielocks @ 1:58 on September 13, 2014  

All of the East coast will have fall out plus you have to consider nuke plans going off and other countries also hit being carried by the wind like Fukashima is doing to the west and still not resolved. Only parts of other states like places in northern Cal south Oregon west Texas I think etc. The EMPs will wipe out the grid and fuel will be hard or impossible to get. Cars may be fried anyways,  except older cars maybe. With fuel communication gone food will be scarce and clean water. For how long can’t say but too long for many unprepared if there was such a event.

Whats behind all these Foreign Problems ?

Posted by Ororeef @ 23:35 on September 12, 2014  

Its not complicated ! ITS ZIBIGNIEW BRZEZINSKI   Jimmy Carters and Democraps Senior Foreign Policy Advisor ..He’s the WAR Monger  behind Obama “strategic thinking ”  Its about as effective as Jimmy Carter was with the Iran Hostage Crisis leaving him twisting in the Wind..  Thats Obamas Future ……. if he’s Lucky !

The Last TIME

Posted by Ororeef @ 23:24 on September 12, 2014  

the Dollar was as good as GOLD….we were in a Depression….

Why do politicians choose depression instead of Inflation….and that is what they have done !

They choose depression because Governmnets have not been replaced in a Depression heretofor.The Government stayed in PLace !

History has shown that Weimar Republic chose Inflation and representative Government was thrown out and a Dictator named Hitler was the replacement .

But WHAT IF WE GET BOTH?     History dosent repeat exactly but it Rhymes ROTATING BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN iNFLATION AND DEPRESSION   The Worst of Both Worlds….Dictatorial Governments run by 1 of the Three branches of Government .  Inflation in the Private sector that must be allowed or Shortages will bring riots in both FOOD and Energy.  Democrats opt for Wars because it Rallys the Patriotism and keeps them in power. It also distracts the Public from their Failures and gives the Public someone to Hate ,leaving the Politicians alone !   Rebublicans are better Managers of the Economy and can fix the problems ,but they can’t get elected by promising less help,less food stamps,less subsidies and favoritisim .

“I’m going to take from those that have and give to those that don’t “has more supporters in a depression …and VOTES.

The Dems are WORD Processors and Spin everything until the Public dosent know right from wrong.

Democracy is what we eended up with even though the Founders didn’t want that.

Its MOB RULE !

The Bill of Rights that protects minority rights has given way to Democracys Mob Rule.

 

COT Report – Bullish!

Posted by Buygold @ 22:58 on September 12, 2014  

Bullish, Bullish, BULLISH!!!!!

http://www.cftc.gov/dea/futures/deacmxlf.htm

Oh wait! Does it matter?toon1p

ororeef, pgr2.45

Posted by Buygold @ 22:09 on September 12, 2014  

Ororeef – I’m in Idaho. If the Russians really want to be tactical they’d drop a nuke in Yellowstone and set off the volcanos. Estimates are that the ash would cover 3/4 of the US. Seems like a no brainer to me.

pgr2.45 – good thing for us Clive is wrong 90% of the time.

oh oh – Clive’s first support broken – 1200 is next

Posted by pgr2.45 @ 21:53 on September 12, 2014  

Clives gold

His update from Sept 1

http://www.safehaven.com/article/34982/gold-market-update

Ororeef

Posted by commish @ 19:57 on September 12, 2014  

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