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Gold triangle

Posted by redneckokie1 @ 23:33 on January 21, 2015  

Looks like yesterday may have been the day that matched the triangle apex. History tells us that markets reverse or a few days at the apex and then rejoins the trend in progress. I was hoping it would trade down for a couple of days into the apex and resume to the upside.

After breakout, gold could only retreat to the trend but not penetrate it. It bounced twice and continued up. If we get a few days of sideways movement to alleviate the overbought condition and continue up, the momentum may get intense. The back room financial talks are probably intense after the Swiss dropped the financial bomb.

rno

Looks like gold and silver are under identical control

Posted by silverngold @ 22:45 on January 21, 2015  

Gold Spot (FOREX:XAUUSDO) FOREX Foreign Exchange and Precious Metals Chart

Silver Spot (FOREX:XAGUSDO) FOREX Foreign Exchange and Precious Metals Chart

Ipso

Posted by goldielocks @ 21:14 on January 21, 2015  

Ps were not dealing with people in their right mind or the insane things that are happening wouldn’t be happening.

Ipso

Posted by goldielocks @ 20:38 on January 21, 2015  

Here’s a link on it.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/argentina/11354521/Argentine-prosecutor-who-accused-Cristina-Kirchner-over-1994-bombings-found-dead.html

Ipso

Posted by goldielocks @ 20:36 on January 21, 2015  

It was about a cover up and letting terrorist go. They just found the prosecutor dead the day or before was gonna testify. Lend you a link in a minute.

goldielocks

Posted by ipso facto @ 20:33 on January 21, 2015  

Well certainly no one in their right mind would like to see between the US and Russia.

I’m not familiar with this Nisman case.

off to din din

Ipso

Posted by goldielocks @ 20:25 on January 21, 2015  

Notice the statement at the bottom of this post I really don’t like. Thanks to Obummer and someone pointed it  the congress incumbents that have lost touch with reality being in too long.

COMMENT: Hi Martin:

I am your greatest fan from Argentina.
I noticed you mentioned about the Nisman case.
well it is official. Now we have access to the pdf file case or opening case file.
Nisman stated in this file that Argentina was making a secret agreeement with Iran ( crude oil for soy exports plus secretly dropping charges against iran defendants.
It´s a 200 page spanish file.
I wonder if this means that we are making secret agreements because a war between Russia and the USA is coming and we need to pick a side.
PDf fil:
http://uploaded.net/file/xi1l5ksb

margaret @ 18:55

Posted by ipso facto @ 20:20 on January 21, 2015  

That’s very nice of you to say Margaret … but I think Buygold or floridagold would be a better choice. 😉

Equisetum

Posted by ipso facto @ 20:14 on January 21, 2015  

I think 2015 is going to be a very good year for gold, silver and the miners but I think the tendency for the world to spin out of control will increase. If the world gets crazier then you are in about the best place on the planet, in Canada.

Cheers, ipso

Wanka 16:54

Posted by goldielocks @ 19:46 on January 21, 2015  

Maybe we should hire him as governor of California. We need change and not Obama type short change,

Ipso facto 1.47

Posted by margaret @ 18:55 on January 21, 2015  

Thank you.  You could be lead actor. We could both be millionaires.

Posted by goldielocks @ 17:26 on January 21, 2015  

Marseille Muslim street gangs take over city. Population 40 percent. Why arent they deported before it’s too late and start breeding more thugs which they already are at a alarming rate.

https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2013/12/29/marseilles-is-now-30-40-muslim-excessive-violence-riots-and-rapes-are-turning-it-into-the-most-violent-city-in-europe/

“HUMANITY vs INSANITY – Ken O’Keefe on Globalist ‘Fear Porn'”

Posted by silverngold @ 17:12 on January 21, 2015  

For China to break their peg, the paper short positions in gold and silver would finally be exposed for what they are, counterfeits!

Posted by silverngold @ 16:58 on January 21, 2015  

Long but best not skip it…….. Silverngold

THE RESET HAS ALREADY BEGUN!

Author : Bill Holter

Published: January 19th, 2015For several years there has been talk of a financial and economic “re set” coming, this is no longer speculation as the reset has already begun!  The Swiss have suppressed the price of their currency, the franc, since late 2011.  They pegged the franc versus the euro with a “floor” versus the euro at 1.20.  After confirming this floor publicly on Monday, they abandoned it Thursday only to see the euro depreciate through the par level.  What you saw on Thursday and Friday was the work of Mother Nature as the Swiss decided they would be better served by no longer battling her.

The ramifications of this move by the Swiss are almost infinite when you consider the chain reactions they have now started.  Several large FOREX firms including the largest retail firm in the U.S., FXCM, were rendered bankrupt overnight.  Even Goldman Sachs and Citi admitted to being offside and sustained large losses.  As of right now, we have no idea who “won” and who “lost”, nor do we know “how much?”.  We heard almost nothing from Swiss or European banks on Friday, “who what and how much?” will begin to surface this coming week.  As I have written for years now, if the loser goes bankrupt, the winner does not get paid…thus turning the winner into a loser.  This is a very big problem the markets ignored on Friday but will not be able to ignore as the dead bodies begin to surface.

Think about this point very seriously, many investors (and firms) went to bed Wednesdayevening with no stress at all on their portfolios (or their business), in just five minutesThursday morning they were insolvent.  Just FIVE MINUTES!  We are only talking about “investments” here, how many other real businesses in the import and export area are now broke?  Broke because they hold euros but need francs or they export from Switzerland or import to Europe and now their business model makes no sense?  How is this even possible in just five minutes time?

Another aspect to what and how the Swiss moved on Thursday is that of “central banks” themselves.  Did the Swiss not know they were going to float the franc on Monday when they confirmed the peg publicly?  Did they or did they not inform the IMF prior their actions?  What about the BIS which is headquartered within their borders in Basel, surely they tipped them off?  Christine LaGarde claimed in an interview with CNBC that she had no prior notice, really?  If this is true then it shows the Swiss central bank has moved in an “every man for himself” type of action.  It also shows the “united front” of central banks is not so “united” anymore!  If Ms. LaGarde is not telling the truth and in fact the IMF did have prior knowledge, what would this mean?  It would mean the central banks are finally losing control of the rig.  It would also mean the central banks have distorted currencies, interest rates etc. so badly that once Mother Nature takes over, we can expect repeat performances all over the world and amongst all assets and currencies.  How can I say this?  I would simply ask if it is “normal” for two trading currencies to revalue 30% in five minutes or if it is not normal, what was the cause?  We of course know, the cause was the actions of the ECB and SNB over these last three+ years.

We have already speculated the Swiss made this move for one of two reasons.  First, they may have decided the amount of euros necessary to purchase (and thus the amount of francs created) will go exponential this coming week when the ECB goes full on QE (printing).  We also know that euros already make up more than half of their balance sheet.  The other possibility is they know the Greek election is coming up, (the Greek banks are already experiencing bank runs) and they see the very real possibility of the Eurozone fracturing or even dissolving.  Another possibility is maybe they just decided “their first loss is their best loss”?  Maybe they have watched as the core of Europe has asked for their gold back and understand that “trust” amongst central bankers is waning?  Maybe they simply decided to front run the obvious and necessary re set and do it on their own terms?  It is very hard to say what exactly the motivation was, the important thing to understand is their action has started a re set in motion which will not be stopped!  In plain English, the Swiss just yelled FIRE …while standing in the exit!

I have several other questions but first I want to point out the obvious.  Oil was cut in more than half in dollars over 6 months, could you say the price of oil was “re set”?  How about copper?  How about other foreign currencies?  Could the huge moves in so many assets qualify as being “re set”?  The collapse in oil and copper prices are black swans pointing to a rapidly slowing global economy.  The Swiss removing their currency peg is another black swan event and in reaction to the ECB moving toward hyperinflating their currency.

My biggest question now is this, what will happen when China allows their currency to float?  The Swiss are one thing, China is whole different story!  Think of the ramifications when it comes to trade?  Another, maybe even more important question is what will happen when the Chinese “force” the price of gold and silver to trade freely?  Let me explain this further.  The Chinese know full well that gold IS money, otherwise they would not have spent the last several years buying almost every single ounce that came from the ground.  They know it is artificially priced by New York and London.  They can “float” gold in several manners.  First, they can simply bust the COMEX and LBMA by bidding for and purchasing both their entire inventories within a 24 hour window.  Another possibility would be to simply put out a “global bid” and state some price (much higher than current) they are willing to buy any and all gold, presto, COMEX and LBMA would be busted without them doing it directly!

I recently wrote of a “Global Margin Call” where because oil and other assets, currencies, etc. have moved so rapidly, many derivatives traders have surely been thrown “offside”.  This move by the Swiss is nothing different except it was done “officially”.  Actually, the funny thing is they moved to suspend what they were “officially” (and artificially!) doing.  The move by the Swiss has only made the global margin call that much bigger!  The global re set which was already in the works is now publicly and officially happening before your very eyes.  You can close your eyes or not believe this fact, it will not make it go away, nor will it insulate you financially from what is coming.

To finish, and I plan to follow up maybe even tomorrow, the most important re set will be that of gold and silver prices.  I say “most important” because these are the only “tools” available to you as an individual to protect your wealth.  If the Swiss franc and the euro can change in value by 30% within five minutes, what do you think the revaluation of gold and silver will be when the 100 ounces of “paper metal” come looking for the real thing?  At what price will the market clear?  Add a zero?  Two zero’s?  Please understand this, when the margin call is issued worldwide, there is only one money where the call will work in reverse, precious metals.  The “call” will be for real, yet non existent metal.  Gold had already sniffed this margin call and re set out a couple of months ago.  No matter how much paper was thrown at it, it simply stopped going down.  Even while the dollar strengthened synthetically, gold went higher versus the dollar.  Gold has clearly been THE best money, what do you think will happen to real metal when it turns out that 99% of the supposed global supply is proven as counterfeit?

We will soon witness the greatest margin call in all of history.  We will also witness the greatest transfer of wealth and re set in all of history!  My only question is whether what so far has been “rolling re sets” becomes an official market/bank/finance closure and announced …or, do the markets continue to trade and force re sets in market after market.

As an additional note, we have one last question to ponder which may or may not be connected.  Koos Jansen put forth a “mystery guests” theory that the Swiss went short gold in Sept. 2011 which marked the top in gold.  He asks in the following link, “did Switzerland just cover their short“?

I believe there may be some credence to this theory but would go one step further.  Zerohedge asks the question and speculates Japan may be the next “Switzerland” and pull the plug on Abenomics.  Personally I see it a little differently, more importantly, what if the Chinese were to react to the coming QE4 by doing two things?  What if China just walked away and sold their dollar holdings …and at the same time revoked their current peg of the yuan to the dollar?  Will China some day ratio back their yuan with gold?  I think this is likely.  Would the dollar collapse 30%  like the euro just did versus the franc or will the re set be much larger?  Of course the next question would be “how high would gold be marked up”?  An unpegging of the yuan by China would be more important and (current) system ending than nearly anything else I can imagine.  For China to break their peg, the paper short positions in gold and silver would finally be exposed for what they are, counterfeits!

Regards,  Bill Holter

ipso_facto, I meant to address my 16:04 to you, since you posted an item about

Posted by Equisetum @ 16:20 on January 21, 2015  

San Gold at 9:17 this morning. You may not hold a position in San Gold, but I am aware of your positive views about Lakeshore Gold. Maybe not a wise thing to do, but conceptually I tend to lump San Gold and Lakeshore Gold into the same group geologically and geographically. We have a position in both, but currently mostly weighted to SGR, after selling some of our LSG in 2014. Here’s hoping for a pleasant 2015 in these PM miners. Cheers. Equiz

Perhaps foolish me, but somehow I feel our SGR holding is going to come out of this OK.

Posted by Equisetum @ 16:04 on January 21, 2015  

http://investorshub.advfn.com/San-Gold-Corporation-SGRCF-9382/

Floridagold @ 9:49

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 15:32 on January 21, 2015  

Re part:
“His legendary report in June 2008 openly discussed whether the world was on the cusp of events that might prove as dangerous and intractable as the Great Depression, as it indeed it was.”

Comment:

In my observation “the world was on the cusp of events” since 1929. It just never ends. One fiasco after another just since the 1960s JFK assignation. Think about it. ’64 silver coinage OUT.

the ’68 market crash, lasting to 1982. ’71 gold de-peg, causing the Arab oil embargo ’74? Oil $2 to $42 ’69-’79 ($20 to $420 adjusted) Rates 6% to 21% prime. ’87 market crash. USSR imploding. Various currency crashes. Its a effin joke ever since 1913.

And these jokers with a lot to say, somehow never mention the US dollar being traded (manipulated) on the futures market by gov’t lab dog Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan. The gov’t can make or forced to make, the dollar any value they want to imo.

As long as the dollar is pegged very close to the Chinese Yuan, the USA will NEVER be free of big business arbitraging (boycotting) US labor and taxes.

WANKA @ 7:19

Posted by Auandag @ 15:05 on January 21, 2015  

My Pledge, if it turns out I happen to be important enough to killed…..

I, Brandon Smith, founder of Alt-Market.com, will NEVER bring deliberate harm to myself or other innocent people. I will NEVER commit suicide, nor will I ever hurt other people, including family, friends, or colleagues. I will NEVER use a weapon against another human being unless in self defense. I also will NEVER disappear from public view of my own volition, nor will I ever abruptly quit my work within the liberty movement. I am dedicated to the cause of freedom, I am proud of the path my life has taken, I am of excellent health, and am sound of mind (though such a thing may be treated as “subjective” by many).
I will NEVER jump from a bridge, jump from a tall building, hang myself with my underwear in a case of auto-erotic asphyxiation (I’m not into that), drown myself in a lake, or drive my car into a tree after packing it with explosives. I have no drug addictions and NEVER take psychotropic medications. And to be clear, I will NEVER fly in a prop airplane, so it is impossible for me to die in a prop-plane crash. I also will NEVER pull a firearm on a police officer or federal agent unless they arrive without a warrant and exhibit clear intent to harm me or those I care about.
If I am found dead, regardless of the supposed circumstances or motives given by the mainstream press or state officials, IT WAS MURDER, not suicide. If I go missing, it is because of foul play, not because I have quit the movement, or gone off to Alaska to commune with the damn trees. Character attacks will not deter me from my work, nor cause me to walk away from my activism.
If I or any other liberty movement activist end up dead or missing under strange circumstances in the near future, I highly recommend that others in the movement consider this a serious threat and go “operational” to secure themselves and their loved ones.
I have no fear of covert programs against the movement or myself. I will continue to pursue my work, and all possible dangers are ultimately irrelevant. It is my hope that other activists will adopt the same attitude and not be dismayed, no matter what we witness in the days to come

sotu commentary

Posted by treefrog @ 14:39 on January 21, 2015  

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silver

Posted by treefrog @ 12:36 on January 21, 2015  

looks like a successful retest of eighteen bucks.  🙂

 

R640

Posted by Maddog @ 12:10 on January 21, 2015  

I see tdys action as a healthy pull back, we have gone $ 130 plus up, without a $ 30 pullback…one is due soon.

That said the Scum were waiting to attack any ECB anouncement and even tho it was leaked, they were there to sell.

Huge arguements in Germany, Buba and the hard money crowd will be apopleptic about this leak. It looks like the leak was done to bounce them into agreeing…..it will get challenged at the Constitutional Court, who will have to throw it out, as it is completely illegal…..but by then billions will have been spent. I hear Merkel is a nervous wreck, as she now realises what these crooks are doing and that some people may have to go to jail…..includeing her !!!!!!!!

NEM – High of the Day

Posted by Buygold @ 11:59 on January 21, 2015  

Go figure.

Not really forecasting a big down move for gold or silver today.

wanka, re mutant

Posted by treefrog @ 11:59 on January 21, 2015  

nice looking piece.

i guess it would depend on your reasons for buying a rifle.  if you “like its looks”  and would enjoy adding it to your collection, go for it.  it is a nice looking rifle.

if, on the other hand, you anticipate ever needing to use such a rifle, it would (imo) make more sense to take the same money and get three ak47’s.  one for the car, one for the boat, and one to “disappear.”  you would have some fiat left over for ammo.

A little back and filling is just fine

Posted by ipso facto @ 11:38 on January 21, 2015  

10 Day Gold

R640, Wanka

Posted by Buygold @ 11:15 on January 21, 2015  

The outsized losses in the HUI and GDX may be primarily driven by EGO. NEM is up. ABX flat.

 

Wanka – if gold were to close back above $1300 that would show some serious strength.

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