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Good interview-What Russians really Think!

Posted by Auandag @ 22:12 on November 29, 2014  

Commish

Posted by goldielocks @ 21:57 on November 29, 2014  

I’m surprised she didn’t get charged for that. She endangered his family. Despite what she feels about him it was underhanded.

The Turd is all Shook Up

Posted by Auandag @ 20:37 on November 29, 2014  

http://www.tfmetalsreport.com/podcast/6409/tfmr-podcast-saturday-november-29

Karma is a bitch

Posted by commish @ 20:12 on November 29, 2014  

Julie Bosman, who published Officer Darren Wilson’s address in the NYT begging for police protection.

http://www.fireandreamitchell.com

 

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Buygold

Posted by goldielocks @ 20:06 on November 29, 2014  

Si Capiche,

Auandag

Posted by Buygold @ 20:03 on November 29, 2014  

I’m with you. When you listen to Willie you can’t hold your breath. He’s entertaining and claims to have been right for years but the truth is he’s been really wrong for a really long time. Fun to listen and fun to dream but so far that’s about all.

Buygold @ 18:20 You beat me to the punch

Posted by Auandag @ 19:13 on November 29, 2014  

I was just about to post the willie interview- Interestingly he claims any large purchases of gold bullion is going at least $400 over spot and they are running out of vaults to steal. Good interview, but I’m not going to hold my breath!

What is $18000 NSAlex?

Posted by macroman3 @ 19:13 on November 29, 2014  

Here ya go MM- Jim Willie $18K – Do your NSA buddies know if gold goes to $18k or $800? Just askin’

Posted by Buygold @ 18:20 on November 29, 2014  

So this ZH article on FRB gold draw down, presumably for Netherlands matches what Ukies drew down to, a paltry 0.3 tonnes (the doorstops)

Posted by macroman3 @ 17:47 on November 29, 2014  

Hmmm…

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-11-29/federal-reserve-confirms-biggest-foreign-gold-withdrawal-over-ten-years

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-11-18/ukraine-admits-its-gold-gone

 

Goldie

Posted by Buygold @ 17:36 on November 29, 2014  

he WAS talking about gold forward rates rates, there is no symbol, GOFO is an abbreviation. I agree with him, reporting on GOFO is a big LOL and meaningless to the upside price of gold as most gold guru’s would suggest. It’s total B.S. GOFO could go out to ten years and it still wouldn’t matter as long as the paper kings owned the price. They do now and always will unless the BRICS back their currency. WW3 comes first IMHO. Then all these LOL guys may not be LOL’ing so much. Capiche?

 

Buygold

Posted by goldielocks @ 16:52 on November 29, 2014  

I though R640 was talking about negative gold forward. Didn’t know their was a symbol GOFO.

goldcountry, R640

Posted by Buygold @ 15:55 on November 29, 2014  

goldcountry, – yeah no surprise Simmons hasn’t been heard from for some years. As I said earlier, the internet has been the greatest invention the banksters have ever made. Perfect network for disinformation, spew a bunch of shit that totally makes sense, suck in the logical thinkers and take the opposite side of every logical bet. These guys are waay smarter, devious and dishonest than I am, without question.

Lindsay Williams OTOH called bullshit on Simmons. He’ll be dead soon.

R640 – yeah, LOL, LOL, LOL, – JNUG, GOFO. I haven’t figured out your game. You don’t actually own any gold right? Don’t really care what gold does or maybe just hope it craters? LOL.

 

re Larry Edelson Love him or Hate Him, Here’s Larry’s Latest!!

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 15:40 on November 29, 2014  

I don’t buy the big long story. I see things going into reverse. A positive trend, away from the 100 year past. Sure some disruptive things can happen, during a long slow transition, back to normal from abnormal.

It was NORMAL over one hundred years ago to have real money, gold and silver. With REAL money, the NORMAL thing was, a little bit went a LONG way. All you needed was to earn or profit a little bit and everything was fine.

The a’hole bankers (well educated Bernie Madoff Types) from the late 1800s to early 1900s started an experiment called The Federal reserve Act of 1913, that lasted until the summer ’08 meltdown.

Gradually that experiment has created and ABNORMAL situation these days where a LOT of money goes a SHORT way. And that’s the main problem. It causes less confidence, greed, unstable pricing and an attitude that you constantly need more and more money every year, and the excess has to be invested for growth.

Gold and Silver has to come back gradually as money. There will never be any global world wars anymore, so needing the ability to finance big wars and create loaned out money out of thin air won’t be an objective. The world has had enough of that nonsense.

Big militaries with Aircraft carriers, sub marines, bombers etc will be redundant like a horse and buggy whip. Imo keeping gold and silver prices down all these decades was only intended to help keep all other metals prices down for the constant “war effort”.

There is a pricing pecking order in metals. If they keep AU and AG down, it helps for example to keep steel prices for ships down, and aluminum lower for aircraft fabrication etc, creating an abnormal price situation.

The futures abnormal pricing situation is why the gov’t is obligated to help some businesses that have cash flow problems.

Lifeboat @ 7:05 Yap & Micronesian Navigators

Posted by Maya @ 14:45 on November 29, 2014  

Very interesting story about the Yap stone money. Long before the Europeans sailed around the world, the Polynesians populated the islands of the pacific. Other than oral stories, it was thought that the fine art of navigation had been lost in time. The micronesian navigators are the ones that preserved ancient star navigation for the world, via the Hawaii connection. I spent many years in Hawaii when the native hawaiians went in search of their roots and oral traditions of long-distance ocean navigation across the pacific. They found the ancient navigation skills on the micronesian island of Satawal, far to the east of Yap, and one of the most isolated atolls of the south pacific, in the person of Pius “Mau” Piailug.

The late “Papa Mau” as he is known now, was brought to Hawaii to teach the Hawaiian navigators of the Polynesian Voyaging Society the ancient art, which the Hawaiians adopted to their own oral traditions and star names, and found them nearly identical. The Hawaiians built a traditional double-hull canoe (catamaran style) with ancient crab-claw sails and natural materials, and in 1976 Mau navigated the canoe from Hawaii to Tahiti while training the new Hawaiian navigators. To this day the Polynesian Voyaging Society of Hawaii maintains the ‘Hokulea’ canoe, and it is presently embarked on a round-the-world voyage, having navigated the major polynesian islands of Tahiti and Samoa, it was last visiting New Zealand a few weeks ago.

Papa Mau didn’t particularly like the big-city civilization of Honolulu, and returned to Satawal to live out his life, where he died in 2010, but not before training another generation of Satawal navigators and holding a master navigator’s ceremony of ‘graduation’ that had not been seen on Satawal in over 50 years. So the traditions are preserved in Micronesia and Hawaii, and the Hawaiians demonstrate their world-class skills regularly… navigating by the stars with no compass, finding tiny specks of islands in the largest empty ocean on the planet.

I worked with a television producer who travelled to Satawal to do a TV special about Mau Piailug and his home island. They flew to Hong Kong, then a smaller plane to Yap island, the capital of the Federated States of Micronesia. The Yap government runs a ‘government boat’ on a monthly tour of the islands, bringing supplies. This is the only contact with the outside world that many of the islands have. My producer friend says they spent two weeks at sea on this tramp freighter before disembarking on Satawal with all their equipment and food for a month’s stay. The government boat brings mail, and cases of ramen noodles for food support. Other than that, the islanders grow some vegetables and do a lot of fishing for food.

My friend had many stories to tell of his month on Satawal, including going out fishing in a small canoe with Mau and the local island boys. He brought some modern ocean fishing poles and lures from hawaii which the local tuna fish attacked. The locals were overjoyed and impressed with the catch, and they ate well. Most of the gear was left behind as gifts for the islanders to use. My friend described being freaked out in a small canoe so far out they could not see the island and did not know their directions any more. Papa Mau simply told him “Do not worry. I will get you back.” His navigation senses were finely tuned by a lifetime of doing this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mau_Piailug
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/20/AR2010072002941.html
http://pvs.kcc.hawaii.edu/index/founder_and_teachers/mau.html

 

Richard

Posted by goldielocks @ 14:18 on November 29, 2014  

That’s about the size of it.

Anybody wanna here a good joke?

Posted by Richard640 @ 12:52 on November 29, 2014  

GOFO–!!!

Lifeboat

Posted by goldielocks @ 12:19 on November 29, 2014  

Thanks for pulling up anchor for a minute and the story. It’s unlikely these politicians would ever embark on a journey like that or anything requiring danger to themselves or labor to aquire anything of value. Their inventing greenback was away of confiscating it from those who did.

Silverngold

Posted by goldielocks @ 12:00 on November 29, 2014  

You might have a different inverse cycle. The inverse cycle was a high in 2015 that inversed to a low.

goldielocks @ 11:20

Posted by silverngold @ 11:57 on November 29, 2014  

Yes, no doubt Larry is riding on Armstrongs coattails. I’m not from Missouri but still a “show me” kinda guy. I’ll have to see it to believe we go lower, especially to the lows they predict. We are definitely in an inverse cycle and IMO in an inverse cycle anything is possible, including not going lower than we’ve already gone. All The Best…….Silverngold

Silverngold

Posted by goldielocks @ 11:20 on November 29, 2014  

Larry is close to Armstrong follows his forecasts  and believe has for a long time since 1987 I bet since these were all Armstrong’s forecasts he mentioned. I saw a Armstrong trailer for his new movie a few years ago where Larry was in it mentioning past events forecasted by him as well as another I don’t know who he was. I was able to recognize his mom because of it who is a very nice lady I grabbed a pic of at the seminar with her permission last year on the debt crisis.

Larry sure sticks with his story

Posted by silverngold @ 10:33 on November 29, 2014  

Gold under $1000 and protect yourself with inverse ETF’s. LOL!!! I still can’t see that happening, and I also can’t see using ANY ETF’s for any reason. My charts all say the bottom is in, was put in last month, that we may retest that bottom but not under about $1135-45, and then away we go.

Have I ever been wrong?? Okay, yes, many times and I may be wrong again, but I’m in, I’m  holding, and I still see $2300 within a year and $4600 before any significant pullbacks. If you want to help, buy the real thing or buy the actual shares, but DON’T buy the ETF’s. That’s like hiring the local pedophile to babysit your kids. Using the ETF’s or the local pedophile will only end in disaster.

All The Best………Silverngold

I’ll curse the Swiss vote but I’ve been waiting for a Sunday night like 15 years ago…

Posted by macroman3 @ 10:31 on November 29, 2014  

Anyone remember the panic of The Washington Agreement at $400 gold?

Could be spectacular at $1200….

Okay, you can all give me the golden raspberry now.

Love him or Hate Him, Here’s Larry’s Latest!!

Posted by silverngold @ 10:15 on November 29, 2014  

Gold’s Next Bull Market …

Larry Edelson | Wednesday, November 26, 2014 at 7:30 am

Larry Edelson

Almost no one thought gold and silver could ever get hit as hard as they’ve been. Not even the likes of big gold investors like George Soros … John Paulson … Rick Rule … Jimmy Rogers, and many others.

The thing is, they don’t really understand the gold market. They thought they did, but they failed miserably.

 They failed to understand that the gold and silver markets are like any other market. What goes up for 11 years straight has a very high probability of pulling back for two to three years. That’s simple technical analysis, and those high-flying money managers didn’t even get that right.

 They also failed to understand that central bank money-printing is not always bullish for precious metals.

There are times where no amount of money-printing can inflate gold and silver prices because, very simple again, either investors are too scared to do anything with their money … or they see better opportunities elsewhere, like in stocks.

 

Big gold investors, like George Soros, thought they understood the gold market, but they failed miserably.

 

I could go on and on about how the bigwigs missed most or all of the correction in gold and silver and how many billions they and others lost.

But there’s no need for that. But for a short period last year, I got it right, and I helped my readers and subscribers avoid steep losses, and helped them make pretty big profits to boot.

So instead, I want to now turn your attention to what the next bull market will look like for gold and silver — to the forces that will drive metals higher again — once gold and silver finally do bottom.

The bottom isn’t here yet. But by preparing you for the future and for what will drive precious metals higher again once the bottom does come — you will be light years ahead of other investors.

First, and perhaps most importantly, central bank money-printing will NOT be the major force driving precious metals prices higher in the future.

So let me be perfectly clear, if you’re counting solely or largely on central bank money-printing to drive gold and silver prices through the roof in the next leg up, then you’ll miss the real reasons the metals will go higher.

Money-printing, this time largely in Japan and Europe, will be a force, but it will not be nearly as strong a force as it was in the metals first leg up from 2000 to 2011.

The reason is simple: Between the towering inferno of as much as $158 trillion of global debt with weak underpinnings and derivatives bets that now approach more than $1.2 QUADRILLION in notional value …

There is simply no way central banks could ever print enough money to stabilize the global monetary system.

So print or not, the next leg up in the precious metals will not be  driven by money-printing. It will be driven largely by a breakdown in the global monetary system.

A breakdown in the global monetary system means there will be big banks and financial institutions going belly up … sovereign nations, especially in Europe going bust … Washington going bust … and sovereign bond markets collapsing to 10 cents on the dollar.

Money-printing will not solve or prevent or even delay those things from happening in the next several years. Period.

Gold and silver, once they do bottom, will start rising again because savvy investors are finally beginning to realize that their Emperors really do have no clothes, and all the money-printing in the world won’t be able to cover that up.

Second, inflation will NOT be a major force either. Don’t get me wrong. We do face higher inflation in the years ahead. But that part of gold and silver’s next leg up is still a ways off and won’t arrive until late 2015 or early 2016.

And even then it won’t be a big factor: Reason, despite what most pundits say, the U.S. willnever face hyperinflation.

The reasons are simple: First, despite all the flaws in the U.S. dollar, it’s still the world’s reserve currency. And when the rest of the world, again, mainly Japan and Europe, are having so much trouble, it means the dollar will be a magnet for capital, keeping it from plunging into an abyss, thereby avoiding hyperinflation.

Second, is the size of our debt markets. They too are, like the dollar, an exorbitant privilege we have over the rest of the world. Come any signs of major inflation, the bond vigilantes will send rates higher, killing much higher inflation rates in their tracks.

Bottom line: Do not count on inflation to drive gold and silver prices higher going forward. If you do, you will be completely befuddled when gold and silver prices rise, yet there’s no sign of inflation on the immediate horizon.

Third, are the war cycles I’ve been warning you about. In previous articles, I’ve told you how the impact of the war cycles is already beginning to show in many different geo-political realms.

In Syria, in North Korea, in the Cyprus confiscation of depositor assets, in Russia’s moves in Ukraine, in China and Japan’s war of words over the Senkaku islands, in China’s moves in the South China Sea and more.

This is going to ultimately be the most important force driving precious metals higher. It will coincide with the first force above, the collapse of the world’s monetary system.

It will be a nasty set of conditions where governments are at war militarily or financially with each other …

And where governments are at war with their own citizens — repressing more and more liberties and personal freedoms, chasing down assets to tax and confiscate, and more.

In other words, total upheaval of modern society, coupled with a collapse of the global monetary system.

In a nutshell, those are the real reasons gold and silver prices will soar in their next leg up. Not inflation alone. Not money-printing alone. Not even currency devaluations alone.

Get it right, and you will be buying gold and silver near their lows in 2015, when just about everyone else is throwing in the towel.

Right now, I still expect to see gold below $1,000 early next year. Then the bottom will be in.

Silver could fall to as low as $12.50, worst case.

After that, the lid will come off, and the precious metals will begin their inevitable march higher, to $5,000 gold and at least $125 for silver.

For now, remain hedged up or outright bearish per my suggestions in these columns to use inverse ETFs. They are serving you well, with nice open gains.

And stay tuned!

Best wishes and Happy Thanksgiving,

Larry

Buygold @ 21:19 Matt Simmons

Posted by goldcountry @ 8:58 on November 29, 2014  

Died in his hot tub of a “heart attack” when he got a little too vocal about the Deepwater Horizon oil spill. He was saying at the time that there was more than one venting hole.

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