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buygold @ party time

Posted by pgr2.45 @ 12:36 on August 25, 2014  

… stocks are “extremely cheap”!

Are you serious?

Fantastic video Wanka!

Posted by Buygold @ 12:19 on August 25, 2014  

We could use that guy here in the US.735bde62cd

Could it be China

Posted by sbr @ 12:12 on August 25, 2014  

China does not materially intervene in their equity markets IMO, like the NY FED. Stocks are an afterthought. But, what is Chinese leadership thinking about when it comes to Alibaba and is there a stimilus coming?

China is pegged to the $ and their currency is super strong against their rival Japan. There might be something coming here, have a look at US Steel and the Shanghai Composite.

inf

 

Strangely, gold follows China to some degree.

cg

Two instance where paths notably diverged resolved nicely.

5 year GS

Posted by sbr @ 11:23 on August 25, 2014  

GS

 

if it breaks out, the bubble from 2000 will look like a sideways consolidation.

Auandag @ 10:59 on August 24, 2014

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 11:22 on August 25, 2014  

re
$265 billion for Medicaid (all gift, no taxes paid.)
$9.3 billion more for SCHIP (same thing, for kids)
$17 billion for TANF
$108 billion in food handouts
$3.5 billion for heat welfare
$5 billion to babysit someone else’s kid
$18 billion for rent
$9 billion more for “project based” rent
$6.1 billion to buy housing that is then given away
$10 billion more for various “opportunity” and “development” funds (for housing)
$5 billion to “train” people to work
$57 billion for EITC (paying people not to work as hard as they could, beyond tax liability)
$21 billion more for child tax credits (refundable, that is, beyond tax liability as well)
$140 billion (net of tax) in handouts (including admin costs) for disabled people (not based on their FICA payments previously)

Comment:
Normally a country imports things it can’t produce itself, or can’t produce enough of what they need, like Japan importing Oil for example.

I knew back in the late 1970s that the USA would be a far less prosperous nation in the future. We are now in that future, and the above costs are directly related to Americans GLEEFULLY buying imports.

The USA should (or any other nation) should not be importing what they CAN PRODUCE LOCALLy. All nations would be better off…..And all big global multi national corporations would be worse off.

All big global multi national corporations “pulled a fast one” decades ago fooling politicians, by promoting efficiency and increased productivity, which means they arbitraged labor and taxes.

They also fooled the global welfare activists by telling them the poor countries would get work, that is supposed to be somewhere else.
like BUSSING.

Remember that stunt?? We live 5 houses from a school, and by kids were bussed 2 miles north to a minority neighborhood school, and the minorities were bussed down to my local school.

Last week the SM cratered on this news, this week no one believes it

Posted by Buygold @ 11:15 on August 25, 2014  

Here We Go Again: Ukraine Claims It Destroyed Two Tanks That Entered From Russia

Tyler Durden's picture

It’s Monday; which means its time to ramp up the war rhetoric once again as another weekend goes by without ‘escalation’. Ukraine’s military spokesman Lysenko, or as he is better known as Lie-senko for those who actually ask for some evidence of anything that he claims, says, suggests or otherwise talks about, is reporting,via Bloomberg, that:

  • UKRAINE SAYS TWO TANKS THAT ENTERED FROM RUSSIA WERE DESTROYED
  • LYSENKO SAYS UKRAINE CAPTURED CREW MEMBERS OF DESTROYED TANKS
  • UKRAINE SEIZED SOME VEHICLES THAT ENTERED FROM RUSSIA: LYSENKO
  • LYSENKO SAYS COLUMN OF REBEL VEHICLES DESTROYED IN KRASNODON
  • LYSENKO: UKRAINE INFLICTED SEVERE LOSSES ON REBELS IN KRASNODON

One wonders if the captured Russian crew had Langley, VA crew cuts? Unfortunately no one had their iPhone or camera-on-a-sticks to record the action as “proof.” but we are sure that won’t matter. Cure NATO’s comments.  Now, how will the market react to this ‘proven invasion’? Actually scratch that: more escalation is simply a catalyst for even more pent-up de-escalation in the future…

Don Wolanchuk

Posted by Samb @ 11:14 on August 25, 2014  

Absolute and complete utter Bullshit. Is it so hard for him to see the open and ever nearing gaps below? Those are gaps on $xau, $hui, gdx and stocks such as slw.

There may be a minor

Posted by sbr @ 11:12 on August 25, 2014  

pullback in stocks in this area as Goldman just hit a prior peak but equity charts are all pointing towards a melt-up.

All the miners are nearing support, especially the leaders like RGLD and GOLD.

It makes no sense that bonds are bullish but they are for now. bottom line is it looks

like an ocean of money is coming. China? Europe? Just difficult to see that only one

sector is not joining this.

Watch DB. It is up 2% and in a solid downtrend. If it breaks that prior to Sept 4, then

Draghi does something.

The great Don Wolanchuk

Posted by Richard640 @ 10:29 on August 25, 2014  

XAU…..3 wave decline filled the gap at 99.07 which was also coincident with the 75% retrace off the low of aug 5…..such a formation smacks of a wave 2 or bullish irregular flat……….from such a formation a blast off can occur

am i the only ewaver on the planet whos calling the market in the early stages of the epicenter of primary wave 3 up???? please dont find me another……snort and WATCH THE SKY [Don is talking about the stock mkt.]

8/19/2014 12:37:22 PM

somebody on cnbc sed the market is manipulated……..of course it is….in favor of the bull….today manipulations

look at the 1 minute streaming chart of the dow into the first hour low at 1035 and the second hour low at 1140…..see what i mean about the 65 minit hour and the way the boys control the hourly oscilators??? oscilators that are used to trigger inventory in and out of the market to their advantage…….think like a krimnal…..snort

Tell Me that we have more Freedom than Russians!

Posted by Auandag @ 10:23 on August 25, 2014  

Russia Steps Up: ‘Major Fines’ for Corporations Without GMO Labeling

Christina Sarich

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August 23rd, 2014
Updated 08/23/2014 at 12:10 am

gmo field russian 263x164 Russia Steps Up: Major Fines for Corporations Without GMO LabelingAs the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, the U.S. Department of Agriculture, and government officials in Congress continue to ignore America’s pleas for GMO labeling, the Russian government’s legislative commission has moved another step toward GMO-rejection, approving a bill to charge steep penalties for GMO labeling violations.

Submitted by the Federal Service for Supervision of Consumer Protection and Welfare (Rospotrebnadzor), the bill will charge big fines for vague or unclear labeling of any food which contains genetically modified ingredients. Individual entrepreneurs will be fined up to 50,000 rubles ($1,300), and the products confiscated, while larger businesses will face fines of up to 150,000 rubles (over $4,000).

President Putin has said that Russia must protect its citizens from over-consumption of products containing genetically modified organisms due to serious health concerns associated with these crops. Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev followed Putin’s lead saying that Russia has no intention to import GMOs.

Russian Minister of Agriculture Nikolai Fyodorov wants Russia to remain a GMO-free country. At a meeting of deputies representing rural areas organized by United Russia, he said that the government will not “poison their citizens.” Russia has even prepared a bill that would heavily restrict the import of genetically modified agricultural produce, as well as stop it altogether from being produced domestically. This is great for the people of Russia, as 80% of its citizens oppose GMO creations.

In the meantime, the Grocery Manufacturer’s Association (GMA) in the U.S. has allies in Congress holding up the demise of Monsanto, Dow, Bayer, Syngenta, and other companies responsible for poisoning Americans and others throughout the world.

In fact, our government has supported the GMA’s desire for a Federal voluntary labeling bill in Congress that would block states from passing meaningful mandatory labeling bills, redefine GE food as “safe,” and even allow GE foods to be labeled as “natural.”

A group of senators from Russia’s Federation Council introduced a bill last February which would prohibit the distribution and import of products containing GMOs in Russia. That means NO U.S. exports of GM crops.

The Russian agricultural industry has long maintained extensive restrictions on the use of technology related to GMOs, and this is why they currently only have 18 lines for GMO foods in the current bill. The senators say that because of its World Trade Organization membership, Russian markets could import numerous genetically modified products from other countries, thereby destabilizing Russia’s non-GMO farming practices.

Perhaps Russia knows something the U.S. doesn’t?

Read more: http://naturalsociety.com/russia-toughens-gmo-labeling-violations-increased-fines/#ixzz3BPiOUHCY
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Party Time!

Posted by Buygold @ 10:10 on August 25, 2014  

S & P HITS 2K

Nasdaq 5K can’t be far behind!!!toon1c

CNBS just had a guest on who said stocks are “extremely cheap”!

Buy! Buy! Buy!

Morning Oasis – you too silverngold

Posted by Buygold @ 9:42 on August 25, 2014  

I’m sure the anti-depressants may have played a role, possibly his struggles with alcohol. He had just been diagnosed with Parkinson’s and I’d think that would have thrown him into an even bigger funk.

Inside his head must’ve been a horrible prison for him. Very sad.

As we continue down the steep slippery slope

Posted by commish @ 9:01 on August 25, 2014  

eafeac71fa towards a Global economic collaspe.

A thought……

Posted by NEMO @ 6:21 on August 25, 2014  

….one can find seasonal charts for gold

(here is one example : http://www.seasonalcharts.com/classics_gold.html )

Could it not be interesting to compare that 30 year chart, with a chart of the same topic that shows the latest 15 years ??

We are many here that thinks the market is more and more manipulated. So I think that could be an interesting combination of two charts. We could perhaps get some indications, that there are some changes during the years.

I´m not good at charting so I´ll leave it to someone else.

Or it has perhaps already been done.

NEMO

Coffee’s on

Posted by MadMike @ 5:06 on August 25, 2014  

big coffee 10

Mr.GoldBug @ 19:12

Posted by ment17 @ 23:25 on August 24, 2014  

gold bug  2200 in six months … noted.. …as you climb on a limb ….

so  looking at a feb 2015  price .. might as well .. predictions and charts  are all over .. there a dime a dozen and work mostly because they do not work.. but the memory hole on wrong predictions is legion but the one out of the many that is right is touted as the end all and do all of the gurus happy talk .

 

redneckokie1 @ 18:04

Posted by ment17 @ 23:07 on August 24, 2014  

2 quarters in Vietnam would get you a fine time .. and then some not so fine times  lol

but no football

Napa Ca wine may go up or disappear in some cases

Posted by goldielocks @ 22:28 on August 24, 2014  

After the Earthquake this morning.

http://www.latimes.com/food/dailydish/la-dd-napa-wineries-sustain-damage-from-61-magnitude-earthquake-20140824-story.html?track=rss

Armstrong

Posted by goldielocks @ 22:12 on August 24, 2014  

Armstrong 2032 top gold/ stocks

Given the cycle work that you do, it appears that Gold had a 12 year Bull Market Cycle from 1968 to 1980 followed by a 19 year (one metonic cycle) bear market, followed by a 12 year Bull Market from 1999 to 2011. Does that mean we have entered another 19 year Bear Market Cycle?
Thanks,
A
ANSWER: Under normal conditions that would be true. However, our problem is that we are now in a Private Wave and that means confidence will decline in government and shift to the private sector. That inverts this outcome and the eventual high in gold and private assets is more-likely-than-not going to form off in 2032. The private sector will then collapse and thereafter people will turn back to the state.

Buygold

Posted by goldielocks @ 22:07 on August 24, 2014  

The Govs world wide but esp here and Europe are pushing everyone in the market and still are buying tangibles too.

heres something Armstrong wrote while back believing gold will go up at different levels the next when interest rates move. Just got back from down south from Disney. Met a Aussie where I was staying, she learned what a gold bug was and a few other things. Disney so crowded now fast passes a must and if you go on a major Holiday get in early and don’t leave cuz they close entry after so many and don’t leave you might not get back in.

 

 

Armstrong gold for June 2014
Gold is moving into the June seasonal low on schedule. A closing for the month on a Nearest Futures basis tomorrow below 1251 should result in the sharp decline. A monthly closing BELOW 1192 will warn serious of a sharp decline that will more than likely break the $1000 level. C A U T I […]

That said; I received emails about others saying that number in gold of $50,000 – not Jim Dines.Perhaps they plagiarized him – I do not know who was first. As I have said, $50,000 is not a real gold target for me because it is not about opinion. To see gold above even $10,000 requires the assumption that the dollar decline placing such a move in the realm of currency inflation. For that to take place you must see a like advance in everything else, real estate, wages etc.. The maximum price projection for 2032 seems to be the $22,000 to $24,000 dollar level. That is derived purely technically – not my opinion or what I think. That is not even a forecast saying that is where it will rise to reach by 2032. That is just what it is – answering a question as to how high is it possible FROM A TECHNICAL perspective for gold to reach. If that was reached and there was a collapse, you will not hear me say see I am better or some other stupid childish remarks. I am concerned with timing and price that are two separate and distinct model designs.

 

Auandag

Posted by Buygold @ 20:24 on August 24, 2014  

Gold is down every Sunday night, I can’t even remember the last time it opened higher on a Sunday, can you?

I can understand why Sinclair no longer makes predictions, how can he? This is no longer the 70’s or early 80’s, the corruption and market manipulation is far greater than anything he faced back then. He may end up being right in the long term, but only IF and after the USD collapses. That may be the only thing that propels gold higher. We could be years or decades away from that point.

Until then, stocks go into the stratosphere and goldbugs continue to suffer. Probably why Jim no longer makes predictions.

Beware!!! … The Gold Bear’s are Everywhere!!!

Posted by Mr.GoldBug @ 20:20 on August 24, 2014  

harrydentinthehead…….PLEASE!!!

Auandag @ 19:02 “we will never see $1600 again”. I notice that even Sinclair doesn’t make predictions anymore!

Posted by Mr.GoldBug @ 19:12 on August 24, 2014  

they have lost focus … I believe it is called nearsightedness ??? …The Bull will throw as many off as possible, yes He (The Bull) hates to be ridden for the full length of time to win!

 

8 Seconds is a 1994 American biographical drama film directed by John G. Avildsen. Its title refers to the length of time a bull rider is required to stay on for a ride ..”

Bull riding

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Bull riding

Bull riding refers to rodeo sports that involve a rider getting on a large bull and attempting to stay mounted while the animal attempts to buck off the rider.

In the American tradition the rider must stay atop the bucking bull for eight seconds. The rider tightly fastens one hand to the bull with a long braided rope. It is a risky sport and has been called “the most dangerous eight seconds in sports.”[1]

 

Long term Focus .. that’s what it will take …keep your eye on the bouncing ball!

 

what the heck, I’ll go out on a limb & make a prediction …$2200 $gold in 6 months from today’s date….

 

who the Heck is Dan Norcini anyhow??? ..SOUR LEMON’S!!…..$250 …PLEASE!!!!! …

Gold down $5.00 right off the hop

Posted by Auandag @ 19:02 on August 24, 2014  

Recently some guru said (I cant remember who) that when gold falls below $1295. the buying will be fierce and $1300 will quickly be breached on the upside. I put that in the same category of “we will never see $1600 again”. I notice that even Sinclair doesn’t make predictions anymore!

redneckoakie1 @18:04 – Let me guess

Posted by commish @ 18:38 on August 24, 2014  

Female companionship?

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