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So why not gold?

Posted by Richard640 @ 23:08 on August 30, 2014  

It’s Settled: Central Banks Trade S&P500 Futures

Submitted by Tyler Durden on 08/30/2014 15:11 -0400
Based on the unprecedented collapse in trading volumes of cash products over the past 6 years, one thing has become clear: retail, and increasingly, institutional investors and traders are gone, probably for ever and certainly until the Fed’s market-distorting central planning ends. However, one entity appears to have taken the place of conventional equity traders: central banks.

Courtesy of an observation by Nanex’s Eric Hunsader, we now know, with certainty and beyond merely speculation by tinfoil fringe blogs, that central banks around the world trade (and by “trade” we mean buy) S&P 500 futures such as the E-mini, in both futures and option form, as well as full size, and micro versions, in addition to the well-known central bank trading in Interest Rates, TSY and FX products.
In fact, central banks are such active traders, that the CME Globex has its own “Central Bank Incentive Program”, designed to “incentivize” central banks to provide market liquidity, i.e., limit orders, by paying them (!) tiny rebates on every trade. Because central banks can’t just print whatever money they need, apparently they need the CME to pay them to trade.

Hard to keep positive lately

Posted by commish @ 22:20 on August 30, 2014  


Silver vs Gold Ratio …..Historically

Posted by Mr.GoldBug @ 21:42 on August 30, 2014  

silvertogoldratio….FYI..been a while since I got out the Crayons..lol


The Current $Gold to $Silver ratio is 66.15 at todays price ..

one ounce of Gold buys 66.15 ounces of Silver



FYI: A 12 Inch By 12 inch By 12 Inch Block Of Gold Weighs 1,206 Lbs

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 21:33 on August 30, 2014  

You would need a fork lift or 6 strong guys to pick it up.

Mr.Copper @ 20:42 .. thanks for the link .. really get’s one thinking!?!?!?!?!?

Posted by Mr.GoldBug @ 21:02 on August 30, 2014  

“In response to that, the Pareto Principle suggests that 80% of the gains are found in the final 20% of the bull market. As it currently stands, the dow/gold ratio is sitting at roughly 9-to-1. A move to a 5-to-1 ratio, would require a $2907 oz. gold price, a 3-to-1 ratio $4845 oz., and a 2-to-1 ratio would require a stunning $7268 oz. gold price.

A 2-to-1 ratio move from here equates to a 400% move higher in gold, and of course,a 1-to-1 ratio ($14,500 oz.) would equate to an over 900% move left remaining in the gold bull market.”


WOWZER!!…” 80% of the gains are found in the final 20% of the bull market.”

“($14,500 oz.) would equate to an over 900% move left remaining in the gold bull market.”

huh…i would settle for “2-to-1 ratio would require a stunning $7268 oz. gold price.”


and know wonder it has been quoted ;  Buy gold and sit on it. That is the key to success. – Dr. Franz Pick


I could not even begin to fathom the euphoria @ $7268 oz. gold price.!!!!..[G}

so maybe in the bigger picture ??.. flippin fer a nickel is not really worth it !!.. [Hi Ment]

wondering why all the gals tease farmboy

Posted by puptent @ 20:55 on August 30, 2014  

Dow Gold Ratio

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 20:42 on August 30, 2014  

Anyone remember me saying they drove Gold higher on propose? Either to destabilize the bull market, or acquire physical for delivery to “whoever”, (at promised lower costs) with them not CARING about the high prices, because they just pay with newly created paper money?? The bozos take gold in or let gold out.

Between ’69 and ’79 they raised rates real high 21% to suck paper money in. From 81 onward they dropped rates to get paper money OUT into the system. They are stymied at this time now because tax payer wages are too low, and tax supported wages and benefits (entitlements) are too high.

I don’t care HOW low they keep rates. Its not going to raise wages in the USA without a shortage of labor or an abundance of wealth producing jobs. Sales and service and gov’t jobs are useless costly overhead.

A producer can survive WITHOUT an office, showroom, or a person to service his PRODUCT. But a sales and service person can NOT survive without the production of the product.

The whole global system is out of whack because our representatives take advice from various self interest business people, that promoted integrating financial systems and production using rigged exchange rates and artificially cheaper foreign labor using increased “productivity” as the excuse.

And lets not forget the global welfare freaks that have a war on poverty in foreign nations. They spread the wealth too thin. Too many workers and not enough work with “productivity”. (lay off half, and make the other half work harder)

Less productivity? Derived from profits. Hire twice as many people, and let them take it easy. 🙂

Chart and Story:
“Essentially, the best way to play the dow/gold ratio trade, is to do so with an understanding of the timing of Central Bank participation (through gold purchases & sales), and monetary expansion & contraction.

“So where are we at the moment? Just look around. Central Bankers globally are smirking in the face of bearish gold sentiment, with “central bank gold buying in the fourth quarter of 2012 mark[ing] the eighth consecutive quarter of net purchases by the official sector and the highest level since 1964,” as reported by the World Gold Council.”


Re Dow Priced In Gold Dow Gold Ratio Charts

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 19:54 on August 30, 2014  

Also shown…Before and after 1913 high jacking embezzlement.

Oklahoma State Cowboys vs Fl. St.

Posted by redneckokie1 @ 19:30 on August 30, 2014  

Cowboys will need to be +3 in turnovers and have some big plays on special teams. OSU will need really good play from offensive line to stay in this game.



Miners Consolidate & Hold Support

Posted by TheDailyGold @ 19:08 on August 30, 2014  

Gold Miners Consolidate and Hold Support



Posted by redneckokie1 @ 18:43 on August 30, 2014  

About that kiss thing. During the oil and gas bust in the 1980’s, the story goes that an independent oilman was turned into a frog by his ex-wife. He hopped to where a gathering of young ladies assembled at the local lake. He said to one homely young lady,” I’m an independent oil man. One kiss and I will share all my wealth with you.” The homely young lady promptly grabbed the frog and put him in a bag. Her friend said, “aren’t you going to kiss him?”  To which the homely young lady replied, “are you kidding, a talking frog is worth something .”

Good luck with the kiss.




Posted by goldielocks @ 18:21 on August 30, 2014  

That looks handy. What range does it get?? Living in city except for my hunting guns and one 38 I worry about range like traveling bullets so probably never get a auto. They have tasers now you can shoot which would be even more immediate than a gun that they could still come at you for 8 ft or so and less lethal. Depending on how much cloths they’re wearing and if only one person. There has been increasing home invasions in a nearby city although my dog is quite a self sufficient security system.

The DOW priced in Gold is only valued at the year 1996

Posted by Mr.GoldBug @ 17:52 on August 30, 2014  

and the dow in 1996  was at 5000 .. so if you look at it in fiat dollar numbers, it is 17,000

but in terms of real money Gold, it is really DOW 5000  … how can one be so naive ..


the $DOW’s price in 1996



now look at 1996 dow priced in $GOLD and where we are at today 2014 priced in Gold



ssshhhhhhhh!!!!…whatever you do, don’t tell the “SHEEPLE” that they have been Duped!!!

Duped | Define Duped at Dictionary.com

Here is The $DOW jones when priced in real money …..(hint) ….$GOLD

Posted by Mr.GoldBug @ 17:40 on August 30, 2014  

really not new high’s …..not even close ..LOL ….but..but..but!




as quoted by;

  ment17 @ 19:25 on August 25, 2014

“It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.”



It is all a shell game….in my Humble opinion! ..[spit]

Mr.GoldBug @ 17:08

Posted by ment17 @ 17:28 on August 30, 2014  

yes that was a long time ago .. as time is counted lol

been a long time a coming .. sometime in the next_____________  2014   silver and gold should make a move

but as the charts will show…. if the up side line are broken to the upside by price then we will know ..

it just a matter of when not if


yes the real coins with silver content are a good thing to stack .. and have a hand full or sack full  for some future tine I believe


ment17 .. .. I found this on a very old laptop, thought it was …apropo

Posted by Mr.GoldBug @ 17:08 on August 30, 2014  

TacoLatte  …it was like finding a diamond in the rough .. … Have A Great Weekend….your old friend, Bug

love those Mercury dimes ..[g]

WANKA @ 16:40 on August

Posted by ment17 @ 16:55 on August 30, 2014  

thanks wanka that is the site where ment found the images that were posted..


just following up on gold bugs nickel flip yesterday and his choice of the mercury dime

washington silver quarter dollar

Posted by ment17 @ 15:53 on August 30, 2014  
Values Entered:

Quantity: 1
Coin Type: 1932-1964 Washington Quarter
Silver Price:   $19.43 / troy ounce

Total silver value is $3.51.


» There are 0.1808 troy ounces of silver in 1 silver Washington quarter(s).

walking liberty half dollar

Posted by ment17 @ 15:51 on August 30, 2014  
Values Entered:

Quantity: 1
Coin Type: 1916-1947 Walking Liberty Half Dollar
Silver Price:   $19.43 / troy ounce

Total silver value is $7.03.


» There are 0.3617 troy ounces of silver in 1 silver Walking Liberty half dollar(s).

american silver eagle

Posted by ment17 @ 15:48 on August 30, 2014  

Calculate silver value :Silver Eagle Value

(19.43 × .0321507466 × 31.1034768 × .999)  =  $19.4105700038

$19.4105 is the rounded silver value for the 1986-2013 silver eagle on August 29, 2014. However, these coins will carry a premium that can range anywhere from $2.50 to $8.00 depending on the volatilty of the silver market

peace silver dollar

Posted by ment17 @ 15:43 on August 30, 2014  
Values Entered:

Quantity: 1
Coin Type: 1921-1935 Peace Dollar
Silver Price:   $19.43 / troy ounce

Total silver value is $15.03.


» There are 0.7735 troy ounces of silver in 1 silver Peace dollar(s).

morgan silver dollar

Posted by ment17 @ 15:42 on August 30, 2014  
Values Entered:

Quantity: 1
Coin Type: 1878-1921 Morgan Silver Dollar
Silver Price:   $19.43 / troy ounce

Total silver value is $15.03.


» There are 0.7735 troy ounces of silver in 1 silver Morgan dollar(s).


Posted by Augirl @ 14:18 on August 30, 2014  

Too funny. You guys are a scream.

And Farmboy (frog) you’re such a good sport taking all this ribitting  in stride.

Just might take me awhile to figure out if we are still in ceasefire , or not .lol

Have a great day all.



Mad Mike, LOLOL ! Well She Did Mention Something About Emptying The Wine Cellar Eh?

Posted by Farmboy @ 14:02 on August 30, 2014  

Wanna bet when she sobers up I am back to being the Frog again? I aint rushing to pack up the Lily Pad. 🙂

Augirl and Farmboy are friends again!!!

Posted by MadMike @ 13:34 on August 30, 2014  

farmboy & augirl

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