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A post from a friend that is a profession stock broker and investor< basically Gold bugs are fools that’ll never make money

Posted by eeos @ 7:49 on March 4, 2015  

Written by Keith Weiner

My thoughts on that Rickards piece:

– I am not a fan of quantity analysis. Take a measure (real or imagined) of macroeconomic aggregate A. Take a measure of B. Now divide A into B. If that is supposed to tell you something, you may be surprised to learn how little it does tell you.
– The gold standard is not about the government owning or controlling a large quantity of gold.
– No matter how much gold the government of China owns, there is no mechanism to retroactively declare their purely paper yuan to be gold “backed”. It’s impossible to reverse cause and effect.
– In a gold standard, every paper bank note, every deposit, began life as a deposit of gold. The deposit is redeemable. Today, every dollar or yuan or euro began life as an irredeemable credit. You cannot turn paper into gold. No matter what quantity of gold the government owns.
– China has a seat, nothing to do with its gold, but with its economy. That and the fact that it’s a big creditor.
– “took the lid off gold” and “ended the price manipulation” — this is a fantastical allegation, not a fact. I have tons to debunk it.
– “this reset” <– a goldbug fantasy. Buy gold now because IT’S REALLY GONNA GO SKY HIGH!
– Gold does not go up, but the dollar can go down. Suppose the gold price hits $5000. That is not a profit. It is a collapse in the value of everyone’s life savings, and business capital. Gold owners will avoid that loss, which is good. But when they sell the gold, they pay 28% at the federal level plus state income tax and lose a third or more to taxes.
– China is vulnerable so the US needs to keep China happy? This logic is backwards.
– “if they have a mix of paper and gold, and we inflate the paper, they’ll make it up on the gold.” <– gold bug thinking right there. Like saying “If my stocks go down and my gold goes up, I am good.” Gold does not go anywhere. If you own a trillion dollars, that’s worth about 833M ounces. If the value of the dollar falls by 80%, you have just lost 667M ounces worth. Even if you own 100,000,000 ounces of the metal, that does not mitigate the loss.
– “That’s not speculation. It’s in the footnotes of the annual BIS report.” <– typical not just of gold bug writing, but conspiracy theory writing like 9/11. Paint a fantastical picture with unicorns and Holy Grails and Merlin himself casting spells… then point to a real source to prove some incidental point. Sure, the BIS is involved in gold deals when one central bank buys gold from another. Great. That does not support his story.
– “if we are transparent about the gold acquisition, the price will go up too quickly.” Is this article really about the monetary system? Or is it the gold bug infomercial on Why To Buy Gold Right Away? The gold bugs sit and think about three things. (1) I sure wish the gold price would go up so I can sell my gold, (2) someone must be keeping gold down, (3) what scenarios would destroy my enemies and make gold go to $10,000.
– “The point is that is that there is so much instability in the system with derivatives and leverage…” <– a non sequitur in a long series of non sequitur.

eeos- my friend posted keith’s article from his facebook handle. I wrote back to my friend and told him I’m still up 300 to 400% on the phiz side. Where’s my loss Keith? How’s come it’s legal to hit me with so many taxes? Who decided that? I’ll just hold until the rules change again

Coffee’s on (time)

Posted by MadMike @ 5:00 on March 4, 2015  

A_small_cup_of_coffee

So Maya, we all wanna know, will the damn train be on time?

Posted by macroman3 @ 2:00 on March 4, 2015  

So now it is time to fall in line…all you patriachal wanna be rich right now..

Posted by macroman3 @ 1:58 on March 4, 2015  

The FED ain’t gunna let you. Get Smart for the next you…

Hallelujah!

Posted by Maya @ 1:52 on March 4, 2015  

After more days (daze?) of wading through software updates and enablers, I seem to have a stable Operating System at OS-X 10.8.5  (Mountain Lion).

One upgrade less than the current 10.10.2… that I can do without.

Now I can load TurboTax and do my taxes… ugh.

DJmm last pic aludes to King John and the King of Diamonds, only one glitters…

Posted by macroman3 @ 1:38 on March 4, 2015  

http://youtu.be/BZWBw_gupXE

And to my NSA alumni…

Posted by macroman3 @ 0:55 on March 4, 2015  

http://youtu.be/R7nJv3IDJkA

For all the old farts..you too Maya

Posted by macroman3 @ 0:49 on March 4, 2015  

For those after us…

Posted by macroman3 @ 0:47 on March 4, 2015  

Alright BG, time to stiffen up…we are all small people

Posted by macroman3 @ 0:36 on March 4, 2015  

I gave this pep talk to FB in his liquid induced depths of despair several years ago. It takes the experience of the aged to make a better world for the loved ones after. It takes men and women of BG and FB stature to make right.

It is up to our generation to make a difference for two hence. I have four kids from 16-32, only one of which has a clue. Aside from the one that “understands”, all I’m planning for is one Grandkid, with another on the way.

We can’t fight the system, we can only prepare for the next one.

I’m reading a book, Above the Salt, that starts out in the 12 century. It takes 100 years (or four generations) to get to the individual rights set out in the Magna Carta of 1215, 800 years ago. It is up to us to build those blocks, for no obvious earthly rewards.

My family name is a prominent fixture and signatory. Apparently history rhymes.

MM3

Posted by Buygold @ 22:59 on March 3, 2015  

My world is small. The only thing I can do is try to tell my kids and grandkids the truth. Try to get them to think critically and be prepared, avoid whatever the MSM tells them as it is all propaganda. Try to get them to think about how they’d feel if their friends and relatives were slaughtered by someone else’s military – how they’d feel and how they’d react.

I love my brothers in arms, most of them don’t see it s I do. Most see it as the hodgies are just out to get us, but I guarantee you that if the shoe was on the other foot, they’d be the worst kind of terrorists the world has ever known.

I am not a patriot in the eyes of the propaganda machine. I just want people to live and let live. I no longer want to be controlled by the money masters, but I know that the end game is to make slaves of us all or make the prophecy of Armageddon be true.

What I do know is that for some reason we fail to advance, that history for the human race repeats over and over. I don’t understand why as a civilization we fail to advance not technologically but spiritually. I believe that there are more forces at work in the world than we are conscience of and I’m not sure at all that we are at the top of the food chain.

“Treat others as you would have them do unto you”. Fewer words of truth have ever been spoken.

MM3 –  I’m tired of wars, lies, enemies and more lies. I’m tired of humanity being manipulated and being made slaves. Maybe I’m just tired of this thing we call life. I dunno.

 

 

Buygold

Posted by GoldenAge @ 22:33 on March 3, 2015  

I listened to only the first few sentences before shutting it off – but that was more than enough…

GoldenAge

Posted by Buygold @ 22:24 on March 3, 2015  

Didn’t hear it but no doubt I’d want to puke. I’m sure he said Iran can’t have nukes, they might use them! Nevermind that Israel has 800 of their own nukes and that the Zio owned US are the only ones in history that have ever ACTUALLY USED nukes.

I’m sure our Zio-Nazi-AIPAC bought and paid for Congress no doubt got on their feet and gave Netanyahoo many standing ovations for his warmongering.

It’s set in stone. We’re finished.

BG, 21:18, take a bow. Very Patriotic.

Posted by macroman3 @ 22:10 on March 3, 2015  

So what are you doing about it to make the world of your Grandkids better?

I am asking in all sincerity because I know you are a true American, a real patriot.

Buygold @ 21:18

Posted by GoldenAge @ 21:48 on March 3, 2015  

When that Zio-Nazi psychopath gave his speech to the Congress this morning I wanted to throw up

Margaret, Mr. Copper

Posted by Buygold @ 21:18 on March 3, 2015  

It’s always been my opinion that respect is earned. In the US we no longer deserve any respect. Our response to everyone who challenges our financial authority is war. Think about Saddam Hussein, he wanted to accept fiat OTHER THAN USD’S FOR OIL. He was eliminated. Afghanistan had the ability to control  the world’s poppy production, the CIA and the US wanted control.  Afghanistan through the CIA now controls 90% of the worlds poppy production – in the 90’s they controlled less than 10%.

Everything about the US policy is related to the control of money and profit. We don’t care whose kids we bomb or how many families we murder with our bombs, we were invented and controlled to serve the financial interests of the few. Whether it is the MIA, the Drug trade or the oil trade. That’s what we use our military for, that’s why we’ve lost respect around the world.

We are controlled exclusively by Zio-Nazi bankers and those who seek nothing more than profit. THEY ARE PSYCHOPATHS.

Mr. Copper – of course the media is related to Obama. How else could he survive? We live in a totally controlled matrix. We could reverse course and go total protectionist and that is the right move – but it will NEVER happen with the media and the current Zio-Nazi psychopaths in charge. Total destruction is what they have in mind IMHO.

Good news for Yamana

Posted by ipso facto @ 19:40 on March 3, 2015  

Yamana Gold Announces Annulment of Award Assessment in Argentine Legal Dispute

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/yamana-gold-announces-annulment-award-234439000.html

Pretivm Reports Fourth Quarter and Year End 2014 Results

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/pretivm-reports-fourth-quarter-end-233608626.html

Mr Copper. 17:36.

Posted by margaret @ 19:07 on March 3, 2015  

That’s scary.

Wonder why our biased news always sounds the same? Ah, journalistic incest

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 18:59 on March 3, 2015  

IF YOU HAD A HUNCH THE NEWS SYSTEM WAS SOMEWHAT RIGGED AND YOU COULDN’T PUT YOUR FINGER ON IT, THIS MIGHT HELP YOU SOLVE THE PUZZLE.

ABC News executive producer Ian Cameron is married to Susan Rice, National Security Adviser.

CBS President David Rhodes is the brother of Ben Rhodes, Obama’s Deputy National Security Adviser for Strategic Communications.

ABC News correspondent Claire Shipman is married to former Whitehouse Press Secretary Jay Carney

ABC News and Univision reporter Matthew Jaffe is married to Katie Hogan, Obama’s Deputy Press Secretary

ABC President Ben Sherwood is the brother of Obama’s Special Adviser Elizabeth Sherwood

CNN President Virginia Moseley is married to former Hillary Clinton’s Deputy Secretary Tom Nides.

And now you know why it is no surprise the media usually goes very easy on Obama’s many errors.

Ya think there might be a little bias in the news?

Ya Think? PS Global banks have controlling interests in those media corporations.

Goldielocks.

Posted by margaret @ 18:32 on March 3, 2015  

No one could fail to be disturbed by  those images. Except a psychopath, I guess.

Margaret

Posted by goldielocks @ 18:11 on March 3, 2015  

Now two of them something strange going on. Well time up gotta go.

Margaret sorry your name was gone

Posted by goldielocks @ 17:54 on March 3, 2015  

Right and frankly citizens here are getting sick of being dragged into it. Little boy torn from his father left with no real home school and childhood happiness or even basic needs. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyBdwm6hDV4&sns=em http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sem_IPEBEw4&sns=em If you have a weak stomach don’t watch this one. Bombing civilian homes with family’s. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFPz3cWb2rg&sns=em These are the casualties of other people power trips. How many more shoes in a museum will it take. Here they talk about genoside. So is religion good or does it promote inhumanity in the name of it.

HOW TO STYMIE THE WORLD GOV”T

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 17:42 on March 3, 2015  

Americans were dumbed down, not patriotic and it’s far too late now anyway. But the ONLY way was to SUFFER and never buy an imported product, unless its an important natural recourse, like oil, and we want to hoard and save our own for later generations.

People buying foreign consumer products is the same as paying a tax to or foreign aid to other countries.

margaret @ 17:24

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 17:36 on March 3, 2015  

re your…
“I’m old enough to remember a time when the USA was respected. It isn’t any more which is very sad.”

Comment: Me too. But in reality, the USA as it was simply no longer exists. What is NOT getting respected anymore is really the world gov’t, not the USA, but nobody KNOWS that.

The world gov’t (bankers) have infiltrated and absorbed the USA, (and the original US dollar) changed it all, and still doing business illegally as “US Gov’t”

goldcountry @ 17:22 Bankers Decended From and are like, Snake Oil Salesmen

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 17:30 on March 3, 2015  

They control EVERYTHING. Whoever controls the money, controls everything. They control governments and mass media. I enjoyed watching the Summer ’08 financial meltdown. It kicked the bankers in the balls real good when all those borrowers stopped paying off r/e loans.

The bankers though, made the taxpayers bail them out.

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