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Re E.F.P.s Exchange For Physical, news Gold Traders Are Paid to NOT Take Physical Delivery

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 16:28 on April 9, 2020  

Story:

What the heck are those mysterious “exchange for physicals,” the mechanisms by which contracts to buy gold on the New York Commodities Exchange are neither fulfilled by delivery on the Comex nor settled for cash there but transported for supposed delivery elsewhere?

The mechanism long has been incorporated by the Comex trading system but was described as an “emergency” procedure undertaken upon agreement by buyer and seller – except that the use of this “emergency” procedure has exploded in the last year, involving tens of thousands of contracts and, nominally, hundreds of tonnes of gold.

In one respect this is not so surprising, since there never has been much tonnage in Comex gold vaults, with nearly all Comex contracts settled for cash. But apparently physical demand over the last year has risen enough to cause sellers to need to source gold elsewhere.

The presumption is that the EFPs shift a seller’s delivery obligations off the Comex to bullion banks in London. But this raises another issue, since so many EFPs have been issued in the last year that if delivery really was being claimed for them, unallocated metal in London – metal available for sale, rather than metal being vaulted for exchange-traded funds and other institutions – would be wiped out. In January,  researcher Ronan Manly calculated that fewer than 1,200 tonnes of gold in London were really available for trade.

Indeed, sources in the London gold market say that few EFPs ever claim delivery. Rather, these sources say, EFPs are usually cash-settled in London with their claimants paid cash bonuses that are never reflected in the gold price, which would be much higher if the bonuses were reflected.

But as the tightness of gold supply in London increasingly has been recognized in recent months, EFP claimants are said to have been demanding larger bonuses against the risk that the gold will run out, making their EFPs worthless.

Despite the “physicals” in their name, the vast increase in their use suggests that most EFPs have not been resolved by any delivery of metal. So those using and sustaining the mechanism must have other purposes – like sustaining the increasingly creaky fractional-reserve gold banking system.

“Whatever is happening with the EFPs, their enormous use in the last year is new and indicates some >>big change<< in the gold market, and it must be an especially sensitive change because Comex operator CME Group, the U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission, and the U.S. Office of the Comptroller of the Currency – nominal regulators of the gold market and its bullion banks – refuse to explain what it means.”

Note, words Big Change, instead of Reversal? 🙂

https://www.moneymetals.com/news/2020/03/27/gold-traders-are-paid-not-to-redeem-comex-efps-001995

R640

Posted by Maddog @ 16:21 on April 9, 2020  

Apr crimex is a $ 30 prem to Spot….Crimex has a delivery problem…maybe it’s technical due to the virus…..but it’s been around too long, if that was the case, they’d us the RAF or USAF to fly the stuff over…..it’s screaming a problem, that the scum can’t hide.

There has never been such a premium in all of history, of modern mkts for Gold.

Buygold

Posted by Maddog @ 16:11 on April 9, 2020  

No-one can spell a Gold Stock…a few know NEM, or ABX…check out their action today…massive new Hi break outs, for the move…Nem on major Vol..it won’t take too many people to look at some other charts and see they are within pennies of lows still…Gdx is in the base area still a screaming bargain .

Richard640 @ 15:31

Posted by ipso facto @ 16:05 on April 9, 2020  

Muy que bueno!

Look out above!

Captain, Maddog

Posted by Buygold @ 16:05 on April 9, 2020  

Well maybe I’m full of crap as that was a decent close despite the SM not really soaring at the end of the day.

Not sure about the “Force Majeure”

Somehow I suspect they’ll figure out a way to paper things over.

Maddog – agree, heaven and earth will be moved to save the SM. Just hoping the pm sector outperforms in a big way.

Captain Hook @ 14:50

Posted by ipso facto @ 16:02 on April 9, 2020  

“medicinal purposes”

Yep that’s the reason I indulge in G+Ts. 🙂

Not a bad day for the good guys.

Richard640 @ 15:31

Posted by Captain Hook @ 15:54 on April 9, 2020  

Force majeure

Lovely

Cheers

A little worrisome that short term moves track the SM

Posted by Maddog @ 15:39 on April 9, 2020  

but as the scum will move heaven and earth to pump the SM, that may not be so bad….it will help big time,

Gold contracts default, deliveries rationed in London, trader Maguire says

Posted by Richard640 @ 15:31 on April 9, 2020  

3:07p ET Thursday, April 9, 2020

Dear Friend of GATA and Gold:

In extended comments given this week for a weekly promotional video for Kinesis Money, London metals trader Andrew Maguire reviews in detail the ongoing collapse of the fractional-reserve gold banking system based in London.

While Maguire’s topic is complicated, this seems to be the essence of his remarks:

— The new gold futures contract offered by the New York Commodities Exchange, purporting to represent a quarter interest in an unallocated 400-ounce bar held in London, is just another form of “paper” gold meant to replace the “exchange for physicals” form that recently has purported to settle most contracts in New York.

— Gold price suppression lately has been meant to protect the U.S. bond market and bond derivatives held by too-big-to-fail banks.

— Recent overwhelming demand for physical delivery in gold in London has caused the unprecedented divergence between spot gold and gold futures prices.

— In recent days gold contracts presented for delivery in London have been defaulted on, while other deliveries have been fulfilled only partially, metal being rationed among claimants, with huge premium payments required for delivery.

— The London Bullion Market Association no longer can make an effective daily market in gold and has irretrievably lost its credibility.

— Ever since a discussion of the gold issue in Parliament last summer, British market regulators often have been warned about the danger posed to taxpayer-backed banks by naked shorting in the gold market but have done nothing about it.

— Pent-up demand for physical gold is far greater than what can be met by the limited resumption of operations by Swiss refineries.

— Foreign-exchange price ratios now imply a gold price well above $2,000 and a silver price above $50.

— The world financial system was already breaking down before the virus epidemic, with the epidemic just accelerating it.

Maguire’s comments begin at the 16:40 mark of the Kinesis Money video at YouTube here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fM66h1fZQo

 

 

We are going nowhere

Posted by Buygold @ 15:04 on April 9, 2020  

unless the stock market moves higher.

The scum has made that painfully obvious once again.

Buygold @ 14:59

Posted by Captain Hook @ 15:04 on April 9, 2020  

You are right. It’s the brain-dead public that needs to wake up.

And that’s exactly what the libtards are doing at this moment.

I always said the party won’t be over until they stop eating.

That eventuality is now in sight.

Cheers

Doctor Evil

Posted by commish @ 15:02 on April 9, 2020  

evlupqfueaaios

Captain Hook

Posted by Buygold @ 14:59 on April 9, 2020  

Low volume in the miners have been that way for awhile now. Confidence is destroyed, momentum players can’t take the risk of getting burned again. Goldbugs don’t have the capital or the strength in numbers to move things forward.

I don’t know who that leaves to invest/trade the sector other than the banks, and we know how that works.

Psychology is a funny thing.

ipso facto @ 14:43

Posted by Captain Hook @ 14:50 on April 9, 2020  

I’m a rum & lime man myself, but I could probably be persuaded to partake in a few for medicinal purposes.

Cheers

Captain Hook 14:28

Posted by goldielocks @ 14:50 on April 9, 2020  

That’s all their wives that will go into isolation with them.
Hope they get well soon. Maybe it will open their eyes to Gates and his mandatory vaccines and get the treatment that’s working now.

Captain Hook @ 14:28

Posted by ipso facto @ 14:43 on April 9, 2020  

… or gin and tonics! 🙂

So you got a silver stock…

Posted by Captain Hook @ 14:35 on April 9, 2020  

…like Bear Creek Mining with piddly volume of 88k so far today.

What’s that stock going to be when it trades 850k a day?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Chuckle

ipso facto @ 14:23

Posted by Captain Hook @ 14:28 on April 9, 2020  

Guess they are not big on exercise or vitamins.

Chuckle

Re Silver, Don’t You Guys Remember The Fake Silver Stories From Many Years Ago???

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 14:27 on April 9, 2020  

After hearing that I went to several malls and a small jewelry store with a very strong little magnet. Practically every chain etc were magnetic. Only Bloomingdales stuff was real. The small jewelry store I KNOW the guy. I told him the story and asked him to let me check his stuff. He doubted anything was magnetic or fake.

Sure enough, he had some very big Silver chains that were magnetic. I felt bad for him after that because he now knew they were fake. It would have been better if he didn’t know.

The old story was that very much of a 50 year supply of too cheap Silver was dwindling, and they need silver, important for industry, so “lets use the fake stuff for jewelry”.

Same with gasoline or oil. Very important for globalization, shipping, and industry freight airlines etc. so  ” Let make all the little people buy gas saver cars, use solar panels and gas heat” but now the bone heads all have very cheap oil.

Here comes the scum bombing PM stox….and metals.

Posted by Maddog @ 14:23 on April 9, 2020  

Whats another few tonnes of paper shorts , when yr already short annual production times infinity…

Wild Card

Posted by ipso facto @ 14:23 on April 9, 2020  

Up to 150 members of the Saudi royal family ‘are infected with coronavirus’: King Salman and Mohammed bin Salman ‘have both gone into isolation to avoid the outbreak’

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8204099/Up-150-members-Saudi-royal-family-infected-coronavirus.html

Captain Hook

Posted by ipso facto @ 14:22 on April 9, 2020  

Sure is good news! I hope it’s true.

Lower Dollar Since Mid March, Propping Up Gold Silver Dow and S&P

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 14:11 on April 9, 2020  

Dollar peaked mid march: https://finviz.com/futures_charts.ashx?t=CURRENCIES&p=d1

AU AG Bottomed mid March: https://finviz.com/futures_charts.ashx?t=METALS&p=d1

Dow S&P bottomed mid March: https://finviz.com/futures_charts.ashx?t=INDICES&p=d1

Bottom line. If TPTB want to support Dow SnP, and that’s what they always did, they must know they need a lower dollar. But they help Gold too, and it must be KILLING them. 🙂 Jerks that they are, boxed in again. To the Bankers Gold higher is collateral damage. 🙂

ipso facto @ 14:03

Posted by Captain Hook @ 14:11 on April 9, 2020  

That’s good news.

Bottomless pockets on the buy-side of the equation.

Good news indeed.

Cheers

Roy Sebag

Posted by ipso facto @ 14:03 on April 9, 2020  

A little closer to a true price.

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