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ipso facto

Posted by Maddog @ 13:53 on April 7, 2020  

Dead right re hyperinflation, …Their only only game for decades has been printing in one form or another and game the mkts to create the mirage all is well.

Once aftrer throwing money at a crisis, when recovery came they could raise rates/tighten to drain the money out…now they have allowed debts to reavch such insane levels they cannot raise rates, so the money stays in the system…but if the economy stays in the mire, the SM will niot earn the dividends to justify buying stocks…..so with treasuries on the floor rates wise, PM’s and especially the miners are one place u can earn dividends.

and prices are still rock bottom….the scum may yet be overwhelmed.

Buygold @ 13:29

Posted by Captain Hook @ 13:47 on April 7, 2020  

Well that’s the truth.

He’s now chief agent for Da Rothchilds and company which is why he owns the fake news / official (status quo, bureaucrats, etc.) narratives.

All these people are bought off agents.

They let it go and are using a very aggressive psy-op aimed at turning the entire planet into the shit-hole police state they control — just like China.

So stay in your homes fools.

Have a good day.

Cheers

@Richie re Dollar Shortage Info. Really? How About Common Sense Shortage, Being Practical Shortage.

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 13:41 on April 7, 2020  

All these guru financial writers are constantly making short stories into long drawn out long stories or like little books. Not even once have I heard any one of them, mention globalization, and or the reverse of globalization. They are describing thousands of little symptoms, or consequences, or unintended consequences, results of, or reactions of, failure and reversal, of the agenda of 1913.

The future of everything is simple and easy to predict if everybody realizes there is a reversal of everything from the past 100 year experiment is in process.  I’ve heard some mention of de-globalization. Same thing.

The “emerging markets”??? They did not just emerge. They were created by the global PTB. Obviously they have to reverse. And un-emerge. Survival on their own going forward. Sink or swim even on all the past “emerging jobs” that were created, especially useless expensive wealth absorbing, non productive jobs, related to reversing the climate.

The whole global system is like new fangled construction methods of the Trade Center complex, NOT built to 1910 standards. They all LOOKED like normal buildings. But had more open floor plans. So they were hollow shells depending on the floor boards to hold the sides upright. So the buildings were vulnerable to fire when the floor boards melted. The weakest link. Floor boards.

In this fake artificial fake money, no standards, financial system, in my opinion, the weakest link, are unskilled non union, private sector tax payer laborers and small tax payer businesses.  Too many businesses and occupations are tax absorbers. Greed and stupidity, of all prior “leaders” whoever they are, ignored the importance of the lowest paid or barely profitable tax paying people and businesses forced to compete with $3 a day mathematically only, cheaper foreign countries.

Globalization was global socialism, and THAT is what’s failing. The net was they ran out of taxpayer money to spend.

buygold,

Posted by treefrog @ 13:38 on April 7, 2020  

would someone who unleashed windows on us hesitate to unleash a mere virus?

 

R640

Posted by Buygold @ 13:29 on April 7, 2020  

Am I understanding that Armstrong believes Bill Gates unleashed the virus?

He doesn’t come out and say it, but is that what he’s implying?

WTF??

Mr.Copper @ 12:22

Posted by ipso facto @ 13:15 on April 7, 2020  

Sounds like a prescription for hyperinflation to me.

Hyperinflation is coming at some point anyways … just as it has for every paper currency ever invented.

When the faith in the currency is gone so is the currency.

The Incredible Dollar Shortage=I have warned that during the REAL crisis, gold will rise WITH the dollar.

Posted by Richard640 @ 12:35 on April 7, 2020  

TUESDAY, 07 APRIL 2020 BY: MARTY ARMSTRONG
 

The demand for dollars is running off the charts in the world of real paper money. The rising fear of Europe canceling their currency and now Boris Johnson in the hospital under intensive care have many concerned that BREXIT could be overturned. Meanwhile, the International Monetary Fund (IMF) is talking about launching a new program to help address the global shortage of dollars! Despite the cries of the goldbugs that the dollar is evil and has to crash. I have warned that during the REAL crisis, gold will rise WITH the dollar. The mere fact that the IMF is now talking about providing a backup to the Federal Reserve’s campaign to help the central banks but creating a REPO market for them to get dollars, the shortage of dollars is absolutely incredible.

IMF is preparing to offer short-term dollar loans to countries that lack enough Treasuries to participate in a Fed REPO program which enables foreign central banks to temporarily exchange U.S. debt for dollars. This is showing that we have a major MONETARY CRISIS on the horizon precisely as Socrates has been projecting. 

The United States is also the IMF’s largest shareholder. This IMF initiative is trying to back up the Fed which is now trying to hold up the entire world economy as the panic for dollars is becoming insatiable. The IMF is holding virtual meetings of members when more than 90 countries have already asked for its assistance in shielding their economies from the coronavirus and global recession. This insane shutting down the world economy for a virus with such a low mortality rate is threatening the Emerging Markets which has vast outstanding debts denominated in dollars.

The IMF sees this as a short-term liquidity line that is exactly targeted to countries with strong fundamentals, strong macroeconomic fundamentals, that may be experiencing short-term liquidity constraints. But this is not a short-term crisis. Socrates has been projecting this Monetary Crisis extending into 2021-2022 for years.

This exaggerated response to the coronavirus has pushed the world economy into this worldwide rush into dollars by unleashing havoc on a global economy that is heavily dependent on the dollar as its linchpin that makes it all function. This world recession is far worse than the global financial crisis of 2007-2009. That was far more localized. I warned at the WEC that this would be a combination of the 2007-2009 Financial Crisis and the 1998 Liquidity Crisis which collapsed Long-Term Capital Management.

The Dow is bouncing as part of the dollar rally. But there is still important resistance at the 28000 level and failing to get above that on a closing basis warns that this is not over yet. The Emerging-market borrowers who tend to rely on the IMF for aid are at tremendous at risk and this is adding to the panic for dollars. The Emerging Markets issued mountains of debt in U.S. dollars not so much for the low interest rates, but because to sell this debt to pension funds who were not willing to take on foreign currency risk. Thus, it has been the Emerging Market countries who took that risk and never hedged it.

A significantly stronger dollar also hurts the U.S. by tightening financial conditions and making American exports more expensive on world markets which has been part of the trade war. The IMF stands ready now to also deploy its $1 trillion lending capacity to fight this dollar crisis instigated by the insanity of shutting down the world economy for a virus.

The Fed has taken what informally existed as a shadow REPO market via swaps and introduce a series of formal programs aimed at supporting the international supply of dollars trying desperately to stave off a Sovereign Debt Default which the coronavirus has just pulled the trigger. I seriously doubt that Bill Gates and his co-conspirators understood the ramification of what they were doing. They too looked at the world with a myopic perspective and only saw their issue and nothing else.

This also places the IMF in the direct line of fire of a collapse in the event that the Emerging Market defaults become their own contagion.  The IMF is providing an unsecured line of credit without conditions that place it at risk as these countries cannot repay the loan because Bill Gates has also seriously disrupted the US economy which they have depended on as the market to sell various produced and agriculture. The IMF has already asked the G20 (Group of 20) leaders to support creating a sizable quantity of reserve assets called SDRs, or special drawing rights, as it did in the 2009 global financial crisis.

Welcome to the Monetary Crisis Cycle.

Midnight Gardener @ 11:24

Posted by Captain Hook @ 12:35 on April 7, 2020  

Yes the MUX experience has been challenging for most. I recently bought in again and am holding most (trade 1/3) even though I think da boyz in NY are trying to get it delisted. It’s got about 20% short (squeezable) and with the best PM company manager in the business at the helm, frustrating as it may remain until the big picture clears up, it’s a hold here.

It’s a buy if you don’t own any, although the shares could vary 20% or more. (and it wouldn’t mean a thing regarding long term prospects)

I hope that helps.

You own select miners because of managers….and Rob is a stallion.

Cheers

@ipso facto re 10:29 I Think TPTB’s Cat Is Out Of The Bag, Finally.

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 12:22 on April 7, 2020  

Its now obvious, that the “Gov’t” does NOT need any tax revenue to maintain public services. They can now proceed to weed out all the unneeded artificial waste of resources, fake jobs. Save on materials too. Maybe even get rid of Congressmen. 🙂 Consumers also can save money.

The Gov’t can then just give a decent free salary of $75,000 each, tax free, to people that lose the artificial jobs, like the EPA, DEC, Solar panels, electric cars, check engine light mechanics, unneeded electronics parts, unneeded bridges to nowhere etc etc.

This is kind of like, a person that can’t pay and stops paying, his mortgage for 6 years. Gets evicted. Then rents a house FROM a real estate investor, makes a few payments,  and the real estate guy wants to sell the house, to the tenant, he has connections, and gets the tenant a mortgage to buy the house.

While the Tennant was not paying his prior mortgage for 6 years, he was buying Silver coins and guns and ammo. Also he got the local Ford Dealer to get him a low interest loan on a new Ford van at $650/mo, almost paid off now.

Now this guy is NOT going to pay down the next house either. True story.

You Guys Remember “The Big Short” Movie? Hedge Fund Manager Michael Burry?

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 11:45 on April 7, 2020  

His hedge fund shorted the mortgage Bonds, maybe a little too soon and he was looking bad. But he insisted he was right and held on, and turned out right, and made tons of money.

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The investor, who also has an M.D., says the economic costs of the pandemic response are too high.

Michael Burry, the doctor-turned-investor who famously bet against mortgage securities before the 2008 financial crisis, has taken to Twitter with a controversial message: lockdowns intended to contain the coronavirus pandemic are worse than the disease itself.

Government-directed shutdowns in the U.S., which led to millions of job losses and may trigger one of the country’s deepest-ever economic contractions, aren’t necessary to contain the epidemic and have disproportionately hurt low-income families and minorities, Burry argued in a series of tweets over the past two weeks. He also said some controversial treatments for Covid-19, such as the malaria drug hydroxycloroquine, should be made more widely available.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-07/michael-burry-slams-virus-lockdowns-in-controversial-tweetstorm?srnd=premium

NGD

Posted by Buygold @ 11:34 on April 7, 2020  

My opinion on them is that they hedge, and since they are so small, that will prevent them from experiencing the really great performance you mentioned earlier when this ship sails.

Morning Midnight G

Posted by Buygold @ 11:30 on April 7, 2020  

Beyond frustrating is a good characterization for MUX and its performance. I’m in the same boat as you, but still remembering there was a time when things really get rolling in the sector, nothing comes alive like these pm shares.

I have no idea what’s holding them back, and sure as hell hope they don’t do a reverse split.

It is beginning to look like the time to buy these shares is now.

Holding them through the inevitable volatility will be a struggle.

Pretty cute trick…puttin gold into suspended animation and keeping it below 1700 thus

Posted by Richard640 @ 11:27 on April 7, 2020  

reversing the bullish technical breakout…and olf cartel trick…

Gold Spreads Blow Out Again, As Traders (of paper gold) Withdraw In Fear 4/7/20 11:01 am

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 11:26 on April 7, 2020  

Gold Markets Are Being Haunted by Signs of Discolation Again

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Gold prices that usually move in lockstep are diverging again, reviving fears of impending turmoil just a couple of weeks after the last bout of panic.

An ounce of bullion sold in New York was as much as $50 more expensive than in London Tuesday, compared with just a few dollars in normal times. The price spread is seen as a measure of the cost to swap futures contracts into gold in its physical form.

A similar discrepancy occurred about two weeks ago, as the coronavirus crisis disrupted supply chains and caused flight cancellations, leading to worries over a gold-bar shortage in New York just before April futures contracts became deliverable.

The resumption in price divergence shows, however, that investors may be still worried about supply disruptions even though delivery for the current most-active futures contract — June — isn’t due anytime soon.

The cost to swap gold futures to physical products is still high, which suggests that the market remains tight, according to Stephen Innes, chief global markets strategist at AxiCorp Ltd.

Still, traders say there’s too much risk and they’d rather stay away from the market altogether at the moment, which is also exacerbating the price divergence.

“You have a bunch of shell-shocked market makers who are literally hiding under their desks and do not and possibly can not make markets in any size, shape or form,” said David Govett, head of precious metals trading at Marex Spectron. “Hence we have the lack of liquidity, the small volumes and the wide spreads.”

https://finance.yahoo.com/amphtml/news/gold-rallies-spread-balloons-investors-003320697.html

MUX

Posted by Midnight Gardener @ 11:24 on April 7, 2020  

One of my, more annoying holdings, at a pretty good loss. I like the fundamentals and management. But the shares do less than nothing. I see information and posts that the MUX story is “golden”. So I hold. The question is, what is holding this stock back? Seems like everything but the share price is better than average. So, any guesses as to the real why it goes no where?

MG

MUX was $9 in Feb. 2006 and Feb. 2011

Posted by Richard640 @ 10:59 on April 7, 2020  

https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/MUX?p=MUX

MUX was $4.44 in 2016–CDE was $15…so a lot of crappy miners can be awarded high valuations when there is a bull run

Posted by Richard640 @ 10:56 on April 7, 2020  

https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/MUX?p=MUX&.tsrc=fin-srch

The HUI is going vertical and is top tick of the day as I write…I’m still waiting for gold to come alive…

Posted by Richard640 @ 10:51 on April 7, 2020  

https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/%5EHUI?ltr=1

Will be a producing mine very soon

Posted by ipso facto @ 10:48 on April 7, 2020  

Pure Gold Provides Update on Mine Construction and Reports Financial Results for Year-Ended December 31, 2019

https://puregoldmining.ca/news/pure-gold-provides-update-mine-construction-and-reports-financial-results-year-ended-december

Maddog–maybe today stocks roll over…and they wanna keep gold out of the headlines

Posted by Richard640 @ 10:47 on April 7, 2020  

Gold only has big up days when paper assets are not selling off…isn’t that the “rule”?

Franco-Nevada Provides Portfolio and Corporate Updates

Posted by ipso facto @ 10:43 on April 7, 2020  

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/franco-nevada-provides-portfolio-corporate-132400215.html

I guess we’ll know this is the real deal when

Posted by Buygold @ 10:30 on April 7, 2020  

some of the decent shares that are now penny stocks really get going to the upside.

My list: GPL, MUX, AAU

Buygold @ 10:13

Posted by ipso facto @ 10:29 on April 7, 2020  

With the scum lurking anything is possible.

Silver miners looking good so far …

Who could have seen it coming? :-)

Posted by ipso facto @ 10:24 on April 7, 2020  

Argentina Defaults For Record Ninth Time

https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/argentina-defaults-record-ninth-time

Just hope it doesn’t negatively affect the miners who are there. It’s a bit of a dicey place to do business.

What’s the consensus?

Posted by Buygold @ 10:13 on April 7, 2020  

Is silver and the shares going to drag gold higher today, or is gold going to drag them down with it?

Typical round number action at $1700 – even though it is in the futures market.

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