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Mr Cooper

Posted by goldielocks @ 23:47 on June 2, 2018  

They already sent a missile in Japan’s direction. I think Obama was a whimp and the whole world thought they could take advantage including Kim. He found out different and got himself sanctions and threats of war. I think what he was up to was to extort money from us like Iran did with O. Why else would he do that he knows he wouldn’t win and how many starving oppressed people would of deserted if they could?

Maybe something like this is going on in the Bermuda Triangle

Posted by goldielocks @ 20:50 on June 2, 2018  

Hawaii volcano: Kilauea’s magnetic field goes OPPOSITE direction – sending compasses crazy
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/968476/Hawaii-Volcano-latest-Mount-Kilauea-magnetic-field-compasses

We need some shaking up

Posted by ipso facto @ 20:02 on June 2, 2018  

Paulson nears launch of investor alliance to shake up gold sector -sources

TORONTO/VANCOUVER, June 1 (Reuters) – U.S. hedge fund Paulson & Co, led by long-time gold bull John Paulson, is set to name a group of investors that will work together to try to drive changes and better returns from gold mining companies after years of dismal industry performance, according to people familiar with the situation.

The Shareholders Gold Council (SGC), expected to be launched as early as June, will have more than a dozen investors, including Delbrook Capital, Livermore Partners and Tocqueville Asset Management, one of the people said.

Delbrook confirmed to Reuters that it will be part of the group.

BlackRock Inc and Van Eck Associates, two of the biggest mining sector investors, are also in discussions to join the group of hedge funds and institutional investors, the source added.

BlackRock manages about $6.3 trillion in assets. Paulson & Co had $8.7 billion in assets under management in January, according to regulatory filings.

The Canadian gold-mining index has lost 40 percent of its value in the past decade, compared with a 9 percent gain in the benchmark TSX index and a 95 percent rise in the S&P 500. Gold has risen 46 percent in the same period.

cont. http://www.mining.com/web/paulson-nears-launch-investor-alliance-shake-gold-sector-sources/

meanwhile…

Posted by treefrog @ 18:22 on June 2, 2018  

panic

Cut Off

Posted by Maya @ 16:48 on June 2, 2018  

smfront060218

Lava flow advances along Hwy 132, just a hundred yards from the Beach Road intersection.  It has now cut Beach Road, so Kapoho is isolated all the way down to Pohoiki Bay.  Lower Puna is isolated now and everyone should be out of the area.  Air or boat access is the only way out now.    Courtesy USGS. 

@ororeef

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 11:45 on June 2, 2018  

I myself never believed they would send off a missile in our or anybody ele’s direction. Fake news imo. Everything they say in the media is an advertisement for something. It could be the west is broke and want a new member to “harvest” in some way.

Natural resources? Cheaper labor? Less USA defense costs protecting s Korea? If the west wants a new friend you can bet there are ulterior motives. For a while there they wanted Cuba to join. The west just wants to absorb. Geez they even absorbed us here in the USA.

Whos on the shopping list? Besides N Korea? Well, they got Iraq, Iran next? I still think the most dominant forces globally in all countries are the defense factory special interests. Like Bond holders.

Mr.Copper @ 10:18 on June 2, 2018 What happened was

Posted by Ororeef @ 10:33 on June 2, 2018  

LIL KIM for the first time was able to reach the US with missals….thats what happened !
AS That Philosopher Mike Tyson notes everybodys got a plan until they get punched in the FACE !
The Trump plan was to avoid foreign entanglements just as Washington cautioned ..then the threat happened…
Just like his friend MIKE ..when he gets punched in the FACE ,,,he takes care of BUSINESS …Trump is a businessman just like MIKE..

BTW

Posted by Ororeef @ 10:23 on June 2, 2018  

Khadafi was taken out because he was implementing a Gold Backed currency..that would become a threat to the Petro Dollar in use in the whole mid East and the West ..both Buyers and Sellers of OIL were on that oil based currency.
He was ahead of his time and it got him killed. China may try the same thing ,we will see what happens as Trump sez so often…

I Do Not Want To Be President Of The World, Donald Trump Before Election. What Happened?

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 10:18 on June 2, 2018  

IF kim IS REALLY SMART

Posted by Ororeef @ 9:59 on June 2, 2018  

HE WILL BE A FRIEND OF TRUMP and therefore not be under Chinas thumb…The US can do more for him than China can ,all Trump has to do is say look at S.Korea ..who created that miracle CHINA ? I dont think so ! Who can keep you in Power ? China ? Trump holds that card ! The DEMS will never be N.Koreas friend ..the first thing they will do is start talking about regime change and human rights ..look who killed Khadafi, the best leader in the N.Africa who gave his people the highest standard of living in N.Africa and spent millions bringing fresh water from the interior with his oil money, then who started the war in SYRIA with the HUMAN RIGHTS EXCUSES the DEMS did it with regime change stupidity from the Obama and Clintonistas .Mr Kim …Trump is the best bet you got ! He can keep you in Power
and at peace with China who dosent want S.Korea on their border ! The DEMS will betray you ! DE Nuclearise with Trump and buy years of time to reform gradually peacefully ..The Democrats destroyed the balance of power between Iraq and Iran Hillary bragged about killing Saddam ,then what happened ..she made Iran the most powerful state in the mid East ,the biggest richest troublemaker building nuclear weapons and signing phony documents that have no authority to prevent anything ,just the appearance of nuclear restraint.Millions have died because of DEMS betrayals in the mid East.

Hi Ororeef

Posted by Buygold @ 9:16 on June 2, 2018  

I edited your post to Ipso – I’d ask that you’d respect his privacy by not using his name in a post.

Glad he was able to help!

It looks to me like

Posted by Ororeef @ 9:10 on June 2, 2018  

Trump and the DEMS have reached a Mexican standoff..They can indict a Ham Sandwich thats obvious…

Trump can Pardon a HAM Sandwich if he wants to…Where does that lead to ?

Can you imagine one of my Great Grandsons being reprimanded by their mother ..a mini indictment..then going to Dad and asking for a Paternal Pardon  ?  Where dos all of this lead ?  Ill have to talk to those two boys and inform them of their rights to request a Paternal Pardon !  What will mom say about that ? Will it start a crisis of control when the kids get too smart !

ipso thanks for the fix

Posted by Ororeef @ 8:20 on June 2, 2018  

I have several computers to update test 4

Maya @ 0:52. Hope all is well in your local environment.

Posted by Equisetum @ 1:05 on June 2, 2018  

Thanks for the Jasper memories posted at 0:52.  The last time I crossed the tracks in that townsite, which was in 1993, the rail power units did not have such a modern look to them.

Gold Train

Posted by Maya @ 0:52 on June 2, 2018  

rrflasher-copy

Better late than never.
http://www.railpictures.net/photo/659033/

 

drb2, your posting at 22:55 is right on and I agree with you.

Posted by Equisetum @ 0:14 on June 2, 2018  

If the identity of the real extractors of wealth from the earth needs to be limited to three vocations (farmer, miner and fisherman), as you and the original German poster have done, then I need to use a relatively broad interpretation of the term ‘farmer’ to include any persons who are occupied in commercial harvesting of the products derived from the capture of solar energy and carbon dioxide by way of photosynthetic processes.  That could include the gathering of a broad range of botanical products for which there is a market demand, for example marine algae and a broad range of products harvested from forest ecosystems.  My own work background is in forestry, so I do not view it as a violation of the term ‘farmer’ to include in that term the concept of ‘tree farms’ and the harvesting of naturally produced wood, cellulose, lignin and fuel products.  All of these products are amongst the primary drivers of ‘manufacturing’.

I have no problems with the point that you and the former German poster are making.  I just wanted to make the aditional point that the term ‘farmer’ needs to be understood to include all commercially important products that are the result of present or recently past  photosynthetic processes, just as the term ‘miner’ needs to include vocations that extract fuels and petrochemicals from geological petroleum deposits that have accumulated from eons of photosynthetic processes.  Cheers.  Equiz

@ Mr. Copper – your 17:35 post

Posted by drb2 @ 22:55 on June 1, 2018  

RE: “manufacturing, that it is the birth of all wealth, and it supports ALL other jobs.”

I get your point, but I have a small quibble – IMO, “Manufacturing” is a level or two up from the “birth of all wealth”.

There was a Gold Eagle poster many, many years back.   a German maybe.  can’t remember his name, but I will never forget his constant refrain – “Nature Debited, Man Credited”.

His point was that the Farmer, the Miner, and the Fisherman through their labor, extracted wealth from the earth.

All humanity relies on their effort.  They stop…. there is NO manufacturing, no anything.  Without them, EVERYBODY else is back to scratching out a living as a hunter gather.  They are the three pillars on which civilization is built.

 

 

Still Cookin’

Posted by Maya @ 21:44 on June 1, 2018  

8fis060118

Fissure 8 today, still fountaining 200 ft.  Courtesy USGS.

Was radio backup for a convoy of hams & 9 trucks evacuating people & stuff from Kapoho area.  Civil Defense says be out NOW.  Lava may cut off beach road escape route any hour now.  Watching this flow carefully as it is ‘balanced’ on the top of the ridge and could break out to the north side toward me.  Lower Puna is being shredded to ribbons by multiple flows down the south side of the ridge.  Pohoiki harbor will be isolated, as will Kapoho.

The real disaster story is the homeless refugees coming out of the area… some 2500 more from the Kapoho area, on top of the earlier 2000 from Leilani Estates.  These are all people looking for a new home who have lost everything.  There are not enough homes available to house the displaced people.  County, Red Cross, and Salvation Army are running large shelters in the area, but this is a temporary solution.  People need long-term housing.

Buygold

Posted by ipso facto @ 20:56 on June 1, 2018  

“Israel still has every intention of regime change in Syria”

I’m sure that’s what they’d like but I think they’d settle for a peace treaty and Hamas and Iran out of the country. JMO

We sure messed the whole region up with the second invasion of Iraq. Neocons must have been delighted.

Ipso

Posted by Buygold @ 20:20 on June 1, 2018  

I guess the problem I have is that even if Iran pulls back at the request of Russia – it will never be enough.

Israel still has every intention of regime change in Syria.

Whatever, I really don’t care. The whole region could be turned to glass and the world would be better off IMHO.

Mr Copper

Posted by goldielocks @ 20:10 on June 1, 2018  

As you would say Roger that and they’re still doing it. I saw the Fed use that term that Trump would cause wages to be raised like that was a bad thing, would cause inflation, to raise interest rates.
Instead Trump outsmarted them and lowered taxes giving many a small raise without wage increase immediately and it started bringing money home.
Notice they never say anything about Governemt wage spiral of over paid Gov workers where private sector gets paid much less for doing the same thing and no pension, we’re paying for in taxes. Then they still want to tax business that bring jobs here. Then outsourcing multinational companies billion dollar salaries while they over taxed and over regulated small business in the US. No mention of that either. Instead they side tract on media fake news or using it trying to get Americans jobs that stuck though the hard times. Now things look a little better till Gov tax again they want their jobs. Typical

Buygold

Posted by ipso facto @ 19:28 on June 1, 2018  

“Russia opposing Iran”

That’s a puzzler BG. Maybe Iran and Russia aren’t really so tight. Perhaps the Russians are attempting to forestall a general Israeli attack into Syria, Which will probably happen if Iran keeps building bases there. It doesn’t help anyone if Iran installs beau coop missiles into Syria in
order to attack Israel.

“slaves” I prefer “serfs.” 🙂

Wow Ipso

Posted by Buygold @ 18:18 on June 1, 2018  

What does Russia get out of the deal by screwing their ally?

The longer I live, the more I think all these countries are in it together. Owned and operated by the Rothschild Central Banks. Iran, North Korea and Syria are the central bank holdouts.

I guess for Russia and Putin, the allure of money printing is just too hard to resist.

We are all slaves.

Goldielocks

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 18:16 on June 1, 2018  

Roger that. Pretty much agreed. But during the good high pay years before 1970 nobody really cared about the prices. They were pretty stable. It after 1971 that prices got higher because they were forced to de-link gold and the dollar.

Naturally nobody wanted to lose purchasing power, so they demanded and got raises to stay even. Unfortunately, the fake media taught everyone the WAGES were causing the higher prices. The scumbags even named it…”The Wage Price Spiral” and claimed “The United Auto Workers Are Ruining The Economy”.

The excess printing from 1934 to 1971 caused a need to de-link the Dollar because the Bernie Sander foreigners were collecting out Gold at $35 when it was really $140. The minute we stopped redeeming or giving them our Gold, they started taking our manufacturing businesses. On top of that the Fed raised the prime rate to 21% to remove money in circulation. Lots of businesses got hurt. Savers had a good time.

They REFUSE to LOSE.

Mr Copper

Posted by goldielocks @ 17:58 on June 1, 2018  

I believe in fair trade as long as that trade is fair and isn’t something we already have that’s taking jobs away from people here.
However sometimes diversity keeps prices down when prices are getting too high not because of cost but greed because a company had a corner on things. Comcast for instance. They have areas that are exclusive to them so no one can compete with them. Apparently they bribed some politician. However Satellite doesn’t require underground wires so still can. These day instead of competing even against each out the difference is minimal because they just look at what the other is doing and if they’re raising pices they raise theirs too.
I remember calling for a quote once on so called cheaper car insurance years ago. One of the first things they asked was how much are you paying now? What does that have to do with their prices!! ?? I told them Im not going to tell you. I want a unbiased quote which wasn’t better anyways.
It’s now appeasing the shirts and shoes at the stock board. They’re all playing their growth game at the expense of the consumer. It’s no longer a business with real people who are supporting them making them rich but a stock competition making the consumers poor. Then comes the point people aren’t gonna pay anymore or get priced out like housing and we have a crash. They never learn.

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