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Buygold, about that cryptocurrency thing!

Posted by redneckokie1 @ 13:44 on July 24, 2017  

I probably will not enter the cryptocurrency thing but no one ever mentions the black market it will create. The cryptocurrency market is screaming failure of the fiat system. Good money has always driven out the bad since history was first recorded. The results have always been the same. Introduce a currency, get good acceptance and then start the debasing process. The romans used silver coins. At first they made them smaller and then alloyed the coins. The chinese were the first with paper money and the results were so bad that everyone refused to accept it.

During all that time, barter was still in operation. Real wealth and resources are always in demand. If you can’t trust paper money, how can anyone trust something that doesn’t exist outside an electronic machine ?

Governments may very well go to a cryptocurrency and a consumption tax. Think of the opportunities in barter! Government agents will treat the whole economy like the bootleggers in alcohol.

 

rno

 

Re Any contraction in the money supply will tank housing again.

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 13:36 on July 24, 2017  

I’ll add to that. If more people stop paying their mortgage down, same as contraction in the money supply will tank housing again.

I know about 5 people not paying, and the banks are paying the property taxes. After 6 years in NY the mtg becomes unenforceable.

Geno, I know since 10 years old. Both took up industrial precision sheet metal parts fabrication in 1964. It takes 10 years to be an “A Mechanic”. By 1975 the prosperity was over and on the way down.

He bought a $1967 Corvette Stingray, big block 427 with three 2 bbl carbs, total cost, $4508. Minimum wage was $1.40/hr. 3,220 hrs of min wage.

Corvette today? $75,000? Min Wage $7/hr? Now you need 10,714 hrs of minimum wage. Or, to repeat 1967, 3220 hrs, it puts adjusted min wage at $23.29/hr to equate the past to buy $75,000 Corvette.

Portugeezer

Posted by redneckokie1 @ 13:14 on July 24, 2017  

Rich, look back 30 years and how many banks and brokerages failed. The reason is leverage. Margin buying coupled with derivatives give leverage 16-25 times the underlying asset. That’s why the stock market is held up to prevent all that leverage working to the downside. Off balance sheet deals are immense (think Enron). Too many investments are made with opm (other peoples money). Banks pay very little interest on cd’s and lend to hedge funds. The banks and hedge fund managers take the vast majority of gains and the people who think they have a safe investment get the crumbs. When things go bad, the people at the banks, brokerage houses and others that take fiat from one side and loan it out simply walk away. The leverage losses are tremendous and the losers can’t pay and the winners want their fiat. The people in the middle can’t cover so they walk away.

If the bailout of 08 didn’t happen, we would be coming out of depression now. The federal government is running under the previous administration budget. 2018 is the make or break year. The coming budget negotiation is going be be pure chaos. Any contraction in the money supply will tank housing again. Rinse and repeat on those mortgage backed securities. Big box stores will take a huge hit and lose more business to amazon . Auto sales will take another big hit. Don’t forget another round of farm foreclosures. Job losses will be the biggest government report lie.

A continuing stream of fiat is required for financial institutions to continue operations. The 08 bailout was done with huge volumes of 30 year bond sales to the federal reserve. Another bailout would cause a dollar collapse. You may be seeing the early stages of the dollar going down. The only saving grace for the dollar is that its compared to other fiat from countries who will suffer the same economic burdens.

Toss health care,  food stamps and student loans into the mix and who has the solution? Certainly not those sleazy, pear shaped elected officials in Washington. The only way out of this is a total reset of real resources and assets to a sustainable level. At current levels, we ain’t even close.

You are absolutely correct about business continuing to operate. The good operators with manageable debt will expand and thrive on the bones of their former competitors. My mother tells me (she is still kicking at 98, not so high, but still kicking) that about 25% of the people during the 1930’s did quite well. The trick is to be in that 25%.

rno

Mystery trader

Posted by deer79 @ 12:51 on July 24, 2017  

FWIW, a mystery trader stands to make $260 million if the VIX goes to 25 in October……

 

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/a-mystery-investor-has-made-a-262-million-dollar-bet-that-the-stock-market-will-crash-by-october

D’oh!

Posted by ipso facto @ 11:58 on July 24, 2017  

Philippines’ Duterte warns miners: ‘I will tax you to death’

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-philippines-duterte-mining-idUSKBN1A90XD

You think there may have been something there that they didn’t want read? Too bad for them that they got lazy and didn’t haul this stuff to the dump.

Posted by ipso facto @ 11:42 on July 24, 2017  

FBI Seized Crushed Hard Drives From Home Of Wasserman-Schultz’ IT Aide

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-24/fbi-seized-crushed-hard-drives-home-wasserman-schultz-it-aide

Maddog @ 9:17 Appreciate The Advice

Posted by Farmboy @ 10:22 on July 24, 2017  

After Richard’s postings this morning, inside selling & VXX at new lows, it sure made me want to load up on some market shorts.

I agree with your synopsis of letting the markets fail last. My own brain is telling me the markets are so over bought, there is no way they are getting out of the 3rd qtr without taking a major hit first. It has already defied the old truism of “sell in May and go away.”

Anxious to see how the markets read Fed Speak this week. Might give us a clue for when to pile up on those market shorts.

 

Buygold @ 8:05 Thanks For The Fed Meet Reminder

Posted by Farmboy @ 10:14 on July 24, 2017  

I get nervous when all the stars align themselves to my trades. 🙂

Just counting on the banksters to do their monthly purge. So far, the phiz putting up a fight. And you are right, so far, JDST outperforming the DSLV.

Place your bet and watch the wheel go round and round. See where it stops on Thursday.

Unreal action in shares.

Posted by Maddog @ 9:52 on July 24, 2017  

Never seen them so controlled….metal is climbing daily…massive TA breakouts are here…so scum just sit on any rally.

Redneckokkie

Posted by Maddog @ 9:20 on July 24, 2017  

Agree on rates…who will the Fed sell to…TA is looking OK for higher rates.

Hi Farmboy

Posted by Maddog @ 9:17 on July 24, 2017  

No favourite Ultra Bear SM ETF….and not keen on selling SM yet. Reckon they will let that go last, as that is the Ubber signal of how well they are doing.

Gold could fly, dollar can fall apart…even Bond rates surge…all can happen under radar, some what…but SM collapse wud be front page news.

Cheers

Employees aren’t “required” to get it. Yeah right

Posted by ipso facto @ 9:06 on July 24, 2017  

Wisconsin Company To Implant Microchips In Employees

http://kstp.com/news/wisconsin-company-to-implant-microchips-in-employees-three-square-market/4549459/

With mincing steps, VXX, which tracks short-term S&P volatility, continued its extraordinary descent last week to new record lows. [click to enlarge chart]

Posted by Richard640 @ 8:07 on July 24, 2017  

Rick’s Pick for Monday

What Rough Beast Is This

, July 23, at 6:30 p.m. ET

With mincing steps, VXX, which tracks short-term S&P volatility, continued its extraordinary descent last week to new record lows. For long-time market observers, the feeling has grown increasingly palpable that “something” has got to give; and yet, on a given day, the broad averages continue to do nothing in particular. They move almost invariably in one direction, wafting ever higher, seemingly unable to sell off for more than a few hours. This is scary and boring at the same time; for in fact, something does have to give. Housing and autos have already peaked, and the disconnect between the stock market and economic reality is growing more troubling by the day. The money managers know this, but their instincts for sidestepping trouble have completely atrophied over the years.

Anyway, we are all in it together up to our eyeballs: pension funds, private equity, insurance companies, individual and sovereign investors — a collective of greater fools, unchastened for too many years to recall what it felt like at the last top.

Farmboy

Posted by Buygold @ 8:05 on July 24, 2017  

Looks like you also have an FOMC meeting this week as well.

No doubt the wind at your back. 🙂

Welcome to edition 370 of Insider Weekends=insiders sold more than 85 times as much stock as they purchased.

Posted by Richard640 @ 7:48 on July 24, 2017  
Welcome to edition 370 of Insider Weekends. Insider buying decreased last week with insiders buying $15.01 million of stock compared to $46.08 million in the week prior. Selling on the other hand increased with insiders selling $1.28 billion of stock last week compared to $490.44 million in the week prior.
Sell/Buy Ratio: The insider Sell/Buy ratio is calculated by dividing the total insider sales in a given week by total insider purchases that week. The adjusted ratio for last week went up to 85.25. In other words, =The Sell/Buy ratio this week compares unfavorably with the prior week, when the ratio stood at 10.64.
Insider Sell Buy Ratio July 21, 2017

Posted by Maya @ 3:30 on July 24, 2017  

bluetea

I got a tree man coming in the morning to help clear the back forest.  Six or eight more trees to fell.  Lumberjack coffee and anti-inflammatories on the Monday menu.

lumberjack

 

Gold Train

Posted by Maya @ 3:26 on July 24, 2017  

rrflasher

Daylight… coming ‘round the mountain, when she comes.
http://railpictures.net/photo/621027

 

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