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GDX Seller going gang busters……what ‘effing war !!!!!

Posted by Maddog @ 15:37 on April 17, 2017  

So what

Posted by Maddog @ 15:32 on April 17, 2017  

Mnuchin Agrees With Trump: “Strong Dollar Over Short-Period Of Time Is Hurting US Economy”

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-17/mnuchin-agrees-trump-strong-dollar-over-short-period-time-hurting-us-economy

US Deploys Two More Aircraft Carriers Toward Korean Peninsula: Yonhap

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-17/us-deploys-two-more-aircraft-carriers-toward-korean-peninsula-yonhap

TA is a near waste of time and now so is real news….the Rig Rules All.

So much for Trumps weaker dollar……Lloyd didn’t get the Memo.

Posted by Maddog @ 15:21 on April 17, 2017  

Silver smash

Posted by Buygold @ 15:20 on April 17, 2017  

Guess since the juniors silvers were getting pummeled they had to hit silver so things would look normal.

What an ugly day.

Oreef

Posted by Maddog @ 15:12 on April 17, 2017  

re what should Trump do.

I doubt Cohn would allow any of that, unless Government Sucks wrote the programme.

Once Government Sucks. always Government Sucks.

That was a good Federal Reserve rant

Posted by eeos @ 15:05 on April 17, 2017  

Ororeef. The idea is so simple and clear that it will never happen


 

The Fed is on the wrong Side !

Posted by Ororeef @ 14:52 on April 17, 2017  

http://kingworldnews.com/michael-belkin-broadcast-interview-available-now-4-14-17/

Slow Progress

Posted by Ororeef @ 14:43 on April 17, 2017  

slw-slow-progress

nice action,makin progress

Posted by Ororeef @ 14:32 on April 17, 2017  

slw-nice-actionf-v-progress

Farmboy @ 9:05

Posted by Maya @ 14:29 on April 17, 2017  

“Finders, Keepers” is the Easter rule!  🙂

But maybe it was intended for you.  Damn thing is filled with chocolate!   Like the market… all flash, no cash.

If calories were dollars… hoo boy!

What should Trump DO ?

Posted by Ororeef @ 13:53 on April 17, 2017  

NOTHING except FIRE YELLIIN if she raises RATES !  then let a Computer run the FED and base RATES on what the Market Place signals are proper Rates with a Rate setting mechanism that everyone knows in advance .One that is predictable  and does not give favoritism to anybody that wants to bribe to get advance knowledge .That means get Politics out of the Fed Rate setting business …..and financial planners can have predictability about future Rates ..because everybody can calculate the same numbers. The FED is a Bribery system set up to favor the Bankster FED Members who conceal their decisions from the public for five years ..except to their members. the Banksters.

Trump can fix that problem  ! lets see if he choses to do it ! Thats why the Political infighting is going on right Now for his attention..

The stakes are BIG.!   as big as SYRIA Politics !  Its always about the money ,and corruption is its cousin ……Thats why I own GOLD !

 

Ororeef @ 13:31re Why the FED WILL do it AGAIN !

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 13:43 on April 17, 2017  

They already did it again. They raised rates after 1971 to a 21% prime around 1980, and caused a 20 year deflation or depression in commodities, and an invisible stealth depression in the US economy 1975 to 2008. Depression covered over with gov’t spending and occupation creation to fill “regulation” and “environment” and “global warming” jobs.

re part,

“In his speech above, future Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke acknowledged that, by raising interest rates, the Fed triggered the stock market crash of 1929, which heralded in the Great Depression.”

comment: WRONG WRONG WRONG. The increase in credit and money supply after 1913, to finance WW I, caused over expansion, and over capacity etc, leading to the higher rates intended to quench that situation.

Higher rates and protectionism was the RESULT, not the cause,

Why the FED WILL do it AGAIN !

Posted by Ororeef @ 13:31 on April 17, 2017  

Regarding the Great Depression… we did it. We’re very sorry… We won’t do it again.

– Ben Bernanke

Waiting too long to begin moving toward the neutral rate could risk a nasty surprise down the road—either too much inflation, financial instability, or both.

– Janet Yellen

In his speech above, future Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke acknowledged that, by raising interest rates, the Fed triggered the stock market crash of 1929, which heralded in the Great Depression.

Yet, in her speech above, Fed Chair Janet Yellen announced that “it makes sense” for the Fed to raise interest rates “a few times a year.” This is a concern, as economic conditions are similar to those in 1929, and a rise in interest rates may have the same effect as it did then.

So let’s back up a bit and have a look at what happened in 1929. In the run-up to the 1929 crash, the Federal Reserve raised rates to 6%, ostensibly to “limit speculation in securities markets.” As history shows, this sent economic activity south rather quickly. Countless investors, large and small, who had bought stocks on margin, would be unable to pay increased interest rates and would be forced to default. (It’s important to understand that the actual default was not necessary to crash markets. The knowledge that investors would be in trouble was sufficient to send the markets into a tailspin.)

WHY will the Fed do it again?

1.Because the Wiemar republic proved that Inflation is a Danger to Democracy and brought a Dictator ,Hitler to Power .

2. The American depression proved that Democracy was in NO  Danger even with an economic collapse .!

Both Democrats and Republicans will opt for Depression because they stay in Power !

Trump, ????????   hehe   theres always a WILD Card isnt there !

Re GPL

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 13:28 on April 17, 2017  

GPL, .40 cents Jan 16, 2016, then $2.25 May 2nd ’16, a whopping 460%. Today? $1.40, still up 250% from Jan 2016. I just might buy a small amount soon, and ladder up if it starts back up.

Farmboy

Posted by Maddog @ 13:12 on April 17, 2017  

99 % of the time so far, if u r just day trading, or holding for a few days, then JNUG etc are fine.

Where they fall apart is if u hold ’em, as u have no idea what ur holding, or what may come round the corner…The prospectus is riddled with caveats, not the least of which, is there is absolutely no guarantee they will reflect 3 times the underlying…they could go 10 times against and be legally covered !!!!

Re the ETFs

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 13:09 on April 17, 2017  

A long time ago Jim Dines said the ETFs would cause higher volatility. Because of them, he said the next general market correction should be very sudden and deep. Opposite in a bull mkt. Think about the PMs in first half 2016. STRAIGHT UP!! I was calling it a reverse crash. Many miners like AG went from $2 to $20. So now down to $10.

Parts:

As mentioned, the first ETF (the S&P SPDR) began trading on Jan. 1, 1993. This fund currently has over $86 billion in assets under management and trades a quarter-billion shares on an average day.

While ETFs do offer very convenient and affordable exposure to a huge range of markets and investment categories, they are also increasingly blamed as sources of additional volatility in the markets. This criticism is unlikely to slow their growth considerably, though, and it seems probable that the importance and influence of these instruments is only going to grow in the coming years.

http://www.investopedia.com/articles/exchangetradedfunds/12/brief-history-exchange-traded-funds.asp

@Farmboy re 11:40 re wait for the blue line to cross above the red line

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 12:58 on April 17, 2017  

I’m no chart pro, but looking further back on that chart, it looks like, every time the price  gets too far below (or above) both lines, the direction changes. Look at that high point, end of Feb. Waiting for the lines to cross, selling out 5-6 days later, a much lower price. And today, the price is WAY WAY below both lines.

Today? Waiting for blue line to cross the red may take 5-6 days of higher prices. Waiting provides a safer bet yes. I myself don’t trust charts because things that happen or things said, often move the numbers. Remember the Brexit news? And Trump news? Geez. rates higher stocks higher, gold a lot lower etc. It was an enormous distortion or interruption of the Gold bull market that re-started Dec 2015.

We were fine between Aug and Nov and suddenly we all got dunked. Gold now finally back up to November ’16. A 5 month dunking.

@Buygold re Something big is coming

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 12:28 on April 17, 2017  

I agree with that. That second eye-wall of the storm is getting close. First eye-wall being 2008. Accumulation of central planning error over 100 years is catching up to them.

Hey Farmboy

Posted by Buygold @ 12:18 on April 17, 2017  

Floridagold is a smart guy and has done we’ll for himself.

Really weird day. I get the feeling this is a shakeout before a big move because it certainly makes no sense whatsoever.

Something big is coming…

Maddog @ 9:37 I Have To Say…

Posted by Farmboy @ 11:49 on April 17, 2017  

So far this year JNUG/JDST have served me very well. In fact, the very leverage that makes them so dangerous is exactly what has worked out in my favor most days. Jnug has added to the profits on days gold and silver (XAU/HUI) went up, and protected my core holdings on days gold and silver went down. Enough so that I am about to take some JNUG/JDST profits and pick up a monster box of car parts next week. Moving paper into physical is always a sensible idea.

I do not have to like the paper games, just hopefully understand them better to book some profits. What the folks posted at the Oasis over the weekend has helped me understand, at least in part, what the hell is going on. My job is to make a profit from their games.

In any event, its a tough row to hoe. Stack em as you can.

Best to you, Farmboy

Buygold @ 10:54 Good Morning Sand Swimmer :)

Posted by Farmboy @ 11:40 on April 17, 2017  

Much as I hate to admit it, that rascal Floridagold may be on to something. I use a different time frame than he does in the charts, but so far, he has helped keep me from losing too much in the trading account. And then of course, there is this GDXJ thing still on going. I’m guessing that GPL is part of the GDXJ index ??

I like GPL, but gonna wait for the blue line to cross above the red line before picking up anymore.

gpl

Apparently, whatever is going on with the GDXJ is continuing today, I have some JDST as a ‘cover’, which is probably a good thing since gold and silver are up, dollar down, and yet HUI/XAU barely holding in the green. Its all nuts if you ask me. Nuts enough that if someone offered to plant my butt on some Afghan mtn top and paid me $40,000 per, I would think seriously about the offer. 🙂 Course, now, they would have to throw in a few cases of Beenie Weenies and ten pounds of coffee to keep me nourished. lol

Just saying….LOL

Hangin In and Hangin On, Best, Farmboy

Maddog, deer79

Posted by Buygold @ 11:19 on April 17, 2017  

I’m with deer on this one it seems they are trying to make it impossible/ too painful to own the juniors and using this GDXJ scam to drive holders out.

This is pretty blatant action in the pm’s with the USD getting hammered.

Morning Buygold

Posted by Maddog @ 11:12 on April 17, 2017  

Re Juniors

Agree bizarre…but I think we can put it down to JNUG/GDXJ…if they are going to rebalance to the tune of 3 billion, then as Goldie says mny will short in front…..plus I am sure the scum are selling the shares via the ETF’s hence the constant GDX seller of recent days..

I hope JNUG blows up…but even then I don’t trust the bums to buy Dollar for Dollar in say GDX.

Not trying to be too repetitive

Posted by deer79 @ 11:12 on April 17, 2017  

But this beat down in the mining stocks is all part of the propaganda machine. Keep as many as possible continually thinking that mining stocks are BAD investments.

Really odd

Posted by Buygold @ 10:54 on April 17, 2017  

To see the relentless underperformance of the juniors. GPL has been one of my best performing juniors and has been down and out for the last couple of weeks. MUX going nowhere.

Flat bizarre.

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