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Market Manipulations: The Greatest Scam of All TIME

do any of you guys who claim “market manipulation” have any evidence? Or is it just hot air?

How many congressional investigations over the last 100 years that have proved absolutely no manipulation can be shown does it take before people give up this BS.

The markets are too big to be manipulated and is utter bullshit by the gold promoters. If the market was manipulated to keep gold down why did it go from $250 to over $1900? Why are manipulations only to the downside and not to the upside?

I feel very sorry for people who believe in this BS and feel even worse for the families who have had their brokerage accounts emptied as the fools who have bought gold miners all the way down crying “market manipulations” the whole time and never understanding that markets go up and markets go down and this is all natural.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTBCacu7lzo

No, those that deny market history are only the ones that deny manipulation. Sorry that you are not a student of history but, perhaps brainwashed Kool Aid drinking is your excuse. Were your assertations  to be true then their would have ever been the need for the CEM or CTFC?  Ah, but that manipulation is only short term, so you say. Can you define short term? Is it 20 years, 30 years ,50 years..etc.? Are you still dumb enough not even to consider the brainwashing and manipulation of your own life. Ya, but, by your definition that is only short term. Stupid is as Stupid is.

The cretins seem to be doing a pretty good job of rigging prices to the downside for the past 4 or 5 years. Some would call that “long term.”

DB just admitted rigging the silver market and is going to name co-conspirators … who am I to argue with Deutsche Bank.

Turquoise Hill Announces First Quarter 2016 Production

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/turquoise-hill-announces-first-quarter-155153173.html

Platinum Group Metals Reports 13% Increase in F Zone Grade and 89% Increase in Indicated Resources to 24 Million Ounces with a Further 12 Million Ounces Inferred

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/platinum-group-metals-reports-13-134538519.html

Randgold signs joint venture for gold project in Congo

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/randgold-signs-joint-venture-gold-160602896.html

Kibali Shines in Record Year for Randgold Resources

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/kibali-shines-record-randgold-resources-161037708.html

Entree Gold Receives Positive Decision on Clean Water Act Permit for Ann Mason Project, Nevada

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/entree-gold-receives-positive-decision-193207433.html

McEwen Mining Reports Q1 Production Results, Royalty Acquisition

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/mcewen-mining-reports-q1-production-203718737.html

Klondex Reports First Quarter 2016 Production of 30,142 GEOs; Reiterates Full-Year Production Guidance

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/klondex-reports-first-quarter-2016-212624089.html

Orca Gold Corporate Update

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/orca-gold-corporate-213904298.html

The gold promoters only cry market manipulation on the downside… never on the upside.

Selling Bullshit

NO ONE can manipulate the market on the long term time frame. Perhaps in the short term like the hunt brothers. But even their attempts didn’t change the long term silver trend.

FWIW: Don’t shoot the messenger but it looks like False Flags and false history were being created long before our time.

https://youtu.be/5AsKykQaqxM

Armstrong wishes to be known as an historian. Really? Market manipulation was well known before our time. John d. Rockefeller with Standard Oil,  and Carlos Slim in Mexico telephone system more recently. Any monopoly is prone to manipulation. Teddy Roosevelt went to war against it and the CME and the CFTC were designed only to prevent it. However, these regulators are now bought and paid for. The biggest manipulators known today are the central banks and the so called soveirn states. They run the game, they got the bread…why not?

Goldie – well if interest rates were to actually rise then I suppose Armstrong could be right although last time they rose was December and that was the catalyst. The ten year bond surely isn’t signaling a rise anytime soon.

Samb – I think if the Chinese in Shanghai decide to manipulate prices higher I’m probably OK with that. 🙂

I wonder if they have a price they want to fix it to in China. How will that effect the other currency prices since they are not the reserve currency. In China the pog is bouncing around but appears to be correcting. Currently over 8K

Armstrong currently warns that rising interest rates will cause closure of some mining companies. Perhaps but perhaps rising interest rates will be the catylists.  It appeared to be with the first interest rate adjustment up gold started moving. I don’t think he would deny that but only time will tell. It is perhaps why he say the dollar and gold, even equities will move up together. I already figured that out so I can read into it.. I think.. Lol as long as he doesnt change his mind.

Whether the reason was hiding manipulation or Armstrong not wanting them to get his code or model to use for themselves leaves him innocent till proven guilty. His claim was that they were after his model. I don’t remember exactly something about Goldman being involved. Why isn’t Hillary involved in erasing emails and how effective is NSA if they can’t retrieve it. I don’t know what having assets has to do with it. There are ways even little guys can manipulate although it’s usually big money and market makers can do it. For instance on futures which I don’t do you can create bidding up bida then cancel and sell with the chasing. Your reason was to sell higher but risky. I do know he changed his tune like most here about gold. However I see his reasoning but it’s not the only reasoning that can drive gold or even markets up. To some who the H cares about long term when they can trade in and out short term. What is long term 5-10-20 years out? Some could be dead or not much time to use it by then or even broke by then. I’m sure he doesn’t wait that long to trade or take profits.

Part:
“”(They) are aware it is a time consuming process. It is not going to happen in one day, one month or even one year,” a source familiar with SGE’s thinking said.

“China has to show to the world over a consistent period of time that the price is open, rational, reasonable and that there is no manipulation.”

Transparency in the fixing process has come under scrutiny since a scandal broke in 2012 over the rigging of the London interbank offered rate, or Libor.”

Comment:
DON’T EVER FORGET, all those banks work together after WW II and “globalization”. Think outside the box. The mass media can never be trusted. They always create false and misleading info.

For all we know? The manipulation will just continue (sheltered) in a different area where its even harder to get accurate info.

http://www.reuters.com/article/china-gold-fix-idUSL3N17M1Y0

The Gov’t claimed that Marty had manipulated markets and that his assets/profits were ill gotten. Marty says, rubbish,  that markets can not be manipulated except in the very short term… as he alludes to Buffet and the silver market. This was never a case of Marty withholding market predictive computer code. It was a case of Marty destroying computer code that could have proved that he did indeed manipulate certain markets to his illicit gain. The Gov’t could not find his hidden assets nor could they find his private computer data. Without that evidence they could not convict. He should have walked free at that point but, they rigged contempt charges. The Gov’t felt that Marty would give it all up under continued incarceration, at some point. Marty felt that the Gov’t could not hold him for so very  long with only a rigged contempt charge. Perhaps that explains Marty’s denial that market manipulation is even possible.

Ps I don’t remember the blogs and having assets. My focus in what he had to say and what the gov was doing or not doing so I don’t have anymore clue than you. I can guess he could have assets out of this country they can’t touch or through his friends family. Politicians do it all the time. They funnel money through there relatives including on business deals they are not supposed to be dealing in while in office. He could of given sums of money through the years to friends and relatives just like you or I could. If they messed that up theyd mess themselves up. Just speculative but is a good question if you think something amiss. Question still is under what cause or authority do they have to take anything from him.

Let’s address all the politicans who ” borrowed” from social security and didnt pay it back? Should we take their assets? We should. Should all these insurance companies sue for the money they lost over Obama care? They should.

I have no doubt that they checked moms assets and have no doubt he would keep him mom out of it lol  It just goes to show fiat is not the only asset one should have to survive when someone can come along and steal it from you.

The main issue is what right did they have taking it in the first place?!?

I don’t doubt at all that Marty suffered in prison. The Government claimed that Armstrong was hiding significant assets…not only gold but, high value art and antiques, many of which were prominently displayed at his Princeton htqrs prior to his arrest. Once again, Marty did not start off slow…he hit the ground running at full speed. If the Gov’t is searching for assets you can bet that they checked Mom’s accounts early on. You say that you spoke to Marty before “He became rich and famous”. Yet, his earliest blogs claimed he had more then sufficient money to retire wealthy right then and there. Where did the money come from? Reminds me of the song…”Fairy tales can come true, it can happen to you, if your young at heart.”

have broken out on the daily, weekly and monthly charts. If both close in this area or higher on Friday, look for significant short covering. Every talking head in the agriculture area says this rally is a gift to hedgers. That tells me the “wall of worry” may be very high.

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I used to talk to  Armstrong before he became rich and famous again via email. I’m guessing his mom helped him in the beginning once he got out. If he did withhold any assets he got honestly I don’t blame him if he never handed it over to the cooks on bogus charges or accusations by criminal minds trying to take what he had. Them taking his assets left him with a lousy public defender. Your chances of defending yourself with a public defender are none to slim. They put him through a lot while in prison including denying him health care. When he got out he was still weak. He wasn’t all that confident with his up coming conference for even being able to stand  for the hours of the conference. I told him to just get a stool to sit on. He said I didn’t understand that at a conference its not like a lecture your moving around lol That and he felt after so many years besides the little information he was getting he will be out of touch. He said there were going to be real brains attending so he doesn’t think of himself as the only smart person out there.I told him he has so much knowledge he’ll do fine. A friend and chemist professor gave me a list of vitamins for him but must say oover kill. I’m guessing he got started again through his conferences and with his knowledge of stocks could invest and went from there. There’s a saying, the cream always rises back to the top. Whether he’s under pressure I don’t know. He did say that all contact is being watched so he didnt even like talking to people on a personal level for fear of them being targeted or harrassed.

You key in what procedure or test and it gives you average price for your areas zip. Why it’s important is because you could get stuck with the over charges.
https://healthcarebluebook.com/

My understanding is that Justice Sotomayor reviewed his case and ordered Armstrong to be released. No evidence that he made any deals to get released. Still I have many questions about him. The Government made claims that he had squirreled away hidden assets including gold coins and bars. Armstrong claims he turned in all his assets. So, my first question would be where did he get the money to hit the ground running? Also ever since his web site arrived, Armstrong has claimed that he has plenty of money…that he is doing his blog as a public service. Again, where was the source of all that money?

and there’s no model in the world that can predict anything.

You have to know the History to judge him…He was kept in JAIL for 9 years without being charged ..because he woulden’t disclose how his proprietary forecasting system worked the Software that the Banks and Government wanted to get their hands on.To my knowledge they never got it.He was only released when he agreed to say certain things that the Gubberment wanted him to say.Nobody came to rescue him ,nobody protested  to get his release,nobody RIOTED…He was left to ROT…A clear violation of his Constitutional RIGHTS bring held without being charged for 9 years in JAIL…

He finally agreed to say what they wanted  ..so you have to take what he says with a GRAIN of SALT  and filter out the Propaganda from the truth.In effect they neutralized him without making him a MARTYR.  Give the GUY a break ! What would you have done !

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-04-19/chinese-start-buying-silver-bofa-says-momentum-breaks-out-highest-years