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Whether the reason was hiding manipulation or Armstrong not wanting them to get his code or model to use for themselves leaves him innocent till proven guilty. His claim was that they were after his model. I don’t remember exactly something about Goldman being involved. Why isn’t Hillary involved in erasing emails and how effective is NSA if they can’t retrieve it. I don’t know what having assets has to do with it. There are ways even little guys can manipulate although it’s usually big money and market makers can do it. For instance on futures which I don’t do you can create bidding up bida then cancel and sell with the chasing. Your reason was to sell higher but risky. I do know he changed his tune like most here about gold. However I see his reasoning but it’s not the only reasoning that can drive gold or even markets up. To some who the H cares about long term when they can trade in and out short term. What is long term 5-10-20 years out? Some could be dead or not much time to use it by then or even broke by then. I’m sure he doesn’t wait that long to trade or take profits.

Part:
“”(They) are aware it is a time consuming process. It is not going to happen in one day, one month or even one year,” a source familiar with SGE’s thinking said.

“China has to show to the world over a consistent period of time that the price is open, rational, reasonable and that there is no manipulation.”

Transparency in the fixing process has come under scrutiny since a scandal broke in 2012 over the rigging of the London interbank offered rate, or Libor.”

Comment:
DON’T EVER FORGET, all those banks work together after WW II and “globalization”. Think outside the box. The mass media can never be trusted. They always create false and misleading info.

For all we know? The manipulation will just continue (sheltered) in a different area where its even harder to get accurate info.

http://www.reuters.com/article/china-gold-fix-idUSL3N17M1Y0

The Gov’t claimed that Marty had manipulated markets and that his assets/profits were ill gotten. Marty says, rubbish,  that markets can not be manipulated except in the very short term… as he alludes to Buffet and the silver market. This was never a case of Marty withholding market predictive computer code. It was a case of Marty destroying computer code that could have proved that he did indeed manipulate certain markets to his illicit gain. The Gov’t could not find his hidden assets nor could they find his private computer data. Without that evidence they could not convict. He should have walked free at that point but, they rigged contempt charges. The Gov’t felt that Marty would give it all up under continued incarceration, at some point. Marty felt that the Gov’t could not hold him for so very  long with only a rigged contempt charge. Perhaps that explains Marty’s denial that market manipulation is even possible.

Ps I don’t remember the blogs and having assets. My focus in what he had to say and what the gov was doing or not doing so I don’t have anymore clue than you. I can guess he could have assets out of this country they can’t touch or through his friends family. Politicians do it all the time. They funnel money through there relatives including on business deals they are not supposed to be dealing in while in office. He could of given sums of money through the years to friends and relatives just like you or I could. If they messed that up theyd mess themselves up. Just speculative but is a good question if you think something amiss. Question still is under what cause or authority do they have to take anything from him.

Let’s address all the politicans who ” borrowed” from social security and didnt pay it back? Should we take their assets? We should. Should all these insurance companies sue for the money they lost over Obama care? They should.

I have no doubt that they checked moms assets and have no doubt he would keep him mom out of it lol  It just goes to show fiat is not the only asset one should have to survive when someone can come along and steal it from you.

The main issue is what right did they have taking it in the first place?!?

I don’t doubt at all that Marty suffered in prison. The Government claimed that Armstrong was hiding significant assets…not only gold but, high value art and antiques, many of which were prominently displayed at his Princeton htqrs prior to his arrest. Once again, Marty did not start off slow…he hit the ground running at full speed. If the Gov’t is searching for assets you can bet that they checked Mom’s accounts early on. You say that you spoke to Marty before “He became rich and famous”. Yet, his earliest blogs claimed he had more then sufficient money to retire wealthy right then and there. Where did the money come from? Reminds me of the song…”Fairy tales can come true, it can happen to you, if your young at heart.”

have broken out on the daily, weekly and monthly charts. If both close in this area or higher on Friday, look for significant short covering. Every talking head in the agriculture area says this rally is a gift to hedgers. That tells me the “wall of worry” may be very high.

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I used to talk to  Armstrong before he became rich and famous again via email. I’m guessing his mom helped him in the beginning once he got out. If he did withhold any assets he got honestly I don’t blame him if he never handed it over to the cooks on bogus charges or accusations by criminal minds trying to take what he had. Them taking his assets left him with a lousy public defender. Your chances of defending yourself with a public defender are none to slim. They put him through a lot while in prison including denying him health care. When he got out he was still weak. He wasn’t all that confident with his up coming conference for even being able to stand  for the hours of the conference. I told him to just get a stool to sit on. He said I didn’t understand that at a conference its not like a lecture your moving around lol That and he felt after so many years besides the little information he was getting he will be out of touch. He said there were going to be real brains attending so he doesn’t think of himself as the only smart person out there.I told him he has so much knowledge he’ll do fine. A friend and chemist professor gave me a list of vitamins for him but must say oover kill. I’m guessing he got started again through his conferences and with his knowledge of stocks could invest and went from there. There’s a saying, the cream always rises back to the top. Whether he’s under pressure I don’t know. He did say that all contact is being watched so he didnt even like talking to people on a personal level for fear of them being targeted or harrassed.

You key in what procedure or test and it gives you average price for your areas zip. Why it’s important is because you could get stuck with the over charges.
https://healthcarebluebook.com/

My understanding is that Justice Sotomayor reviewed his case and ordered Armstrong to be released. No evidence that he made any deals to get released. Still I have many questions about him. The Government made claims that he had squirreled away hidden assets including gold coins and bars. Armstrong claims he turned in all his assets. So, my first question would be where did he get the money to hit the ground running? Also ever since his web site arrived, Armstrong has claimed that he has plenty of money…that he is doing his blog as a public service. Again, where was the source of all that money?

and there’s no model in the world that can predict anything.

You have to know the History to judge him…He was kept in JAIL for 9 years without being charged ..because he woulden’t disclose how his proprietary forecasting system worked the Software that the Banks and Government wanted to get their hands on.To my knowledge they never got it.He was only released when he agreed to say certain things that the Gubberment wanted him to say.Nobody came to rescue him ,nobody protested  to get his release,nobody RIOTED…He was left to ROT…A clear violation of his Constitutional RIGHTS bring held without being charged for 9 years in JAIL…

He finally agreed to say what they wanted  ..so you have to take what he says with a GRAIN of SALT  and filter out the Propaganda from the truth.In effect they neutralized him without making him a MARTYR.  Give the GUY a break ! What would you have done !

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-04-19/chinese-start-buying-silver-bofa-says-momentum-breaks-out-highest-years

This site freezes up and all written I have to log in again then rewrite.
United Health group leaving Obama care next year because they are losing money. They lost 3 billion dollars. Either that or premiums will go up ” again.” Im guessing premiums of others will go up ” again” across the board. Mandatory heath care has caused premiums to triple less subsidized and even if subsidized it’s not really cheaper for working class because the high deductibles make up the difference. 6-10 thousand dollars. People are passing on tests and treatment due to the high deductibles.
They are claiming one cost fits all is the reason because the ones needing more care are causing the losses so will raise the premiums across the board. Again.. If subsidized the tax payers will pay for it or the others forced to buy healthcare or both.
One thing these politicians aren’t looking at is cost differences.
There’s a new site blue chip health care that shows the difference of costs per doctor or corporations.
The range for the same treatment can be striking.
From 2,500 to 25,000 for a colonoscopy.
That reminds me of a mechanic who wanted to charge me 500 for a part that cost 30-40 dollars and it was up front meaning it would take 10-20 minutes to replace. A econo van for camping, When I told him I did my homework and was aware of the real price his stunned response was, “Well I do good work is why.” I didn’t even reply just left and me and a friend replaced it. I should of got it in writing and sent a copy to the bureau of auto repair.
They should have the same for medical scalping including office visits. The Bureau of Medical Care. Instead we got slime bags in politics who get paid to pass things like the TPP that Cruz pandered to till he got enough votes then backed off to look like he’s one of us for the elections that will drive medicine and who knows what else up because they won’t be able to negotiate prices.

Looking good Lewis!

Silver is amazing!

Go Shanghai!

I’d like to see nothing more than the Cartel to get wiped off the map!

Love to see silver finish limit up. Awesome move!

China Launches Yuan Gold Fix To “Exert More Control Over Price Of Gold”

Overnight a historic event took place when China, the world’s top gold consumer, launched a yuan-denominated gold benchmark as had been previewed here previously, in what Reuters dubbed “an ambitious step to exert more control over the pricing of the metal and boost its influence in the global bullion market.” Considering the now officially-confirmed rigging of the gold and silver fix courtesy of last week’s Deutsche Bank settlement, this is hardly bad news and may finally lead to some rigging cartel and central bank-free price discovery. Or it may not, because China would enjoy nothing more than continuing to accumulate gold at lower prices.

The first Chinese benchmark price, derived from a 1 kg-contract traded by 18 participants on the Shanghai Gold Exchange (SGE), was set at 256.92 yuan ($39.69) per gram on Tuesday, equivalent to $1,234.50/ounce.

China’s gold benchmark is the culmination of efforts by China over the last few years to reform its domestic gold market in a bid to have a bigger say in the bullion industry, long dominated by London where the global spot benchmark price is currently set. As is well known, as the world’s top producer, importer and consumer of gold, China has balked at having to depend on a dollar price in international transactions, and believes its market weight should entitle it to set the price of gold.

cont. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-04-19/china-launches-yuan-gold-fix-exert-more-control-over-price-gold

Looks like you’ve put on a bit of weight …

Happy Days are here again! 🙂

I’ll be there. Don’t forget the Pink Slip! 😉

Jaguar Files NI-43-101 Technical Report for Pilar and Roça Grande Operations

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/jaguar-files-ni-43-101-220000082.html

Pan American Silver and MacMillan Minerals announce arrangement with Maverix Metals to form a new metal royalty and streaming company led by former Pan American Silver CEO

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/pan-american-silver-macmillan-minerals-004500645.html

Gold Fields Operating Update – March 2016 Quarter

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/gold-fields-operating-march-2016-063600182.html

Intact Gold Acquires 43-101 Gold Resource Property

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/intact-gold-acquires-43-101-070100105.html

Seabridge Gold Inc. to Acquire SnipGold Corp. by Way of Plan of Arrangement

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/seabridge-gold-inc-acquire-snipgold-110000533.html

Legend Announces Termination of Joint Venture With Randgold Resources

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/legend-announces-termination-joint-venture-120000057.html

Reservoir Announces Positive PEA results for the Timok JV and Cukaru Peki Deposit in Serbia

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/reservoir-announces-positive-pea-results-121739338.html

Gold Resource Corporation Reports Preliminary First Quarter Production of 6,463 Ounces of Gold and 434,100 Ounces of Silver; Maintains 2016 Annual Outlook

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/gold-corporation-reports-preliminary-first-123000454.html

The Clintons paid speeches is just a front for favors and why we need to cut their ties to Gov off and see how many people will pay them then.

Thanks for reminding me about Shanghai, completely forgot about them. Hope they put the wallop on the Crimex.

One thing for sure, if the Crimex shorts actually have to cover all those shorts they’ve added in the last couple of months, the rally in gold and silver will be epic.

Have a great day.

” One reason is that the dollar is weakening. Another reason is that there is heavy buying in silver in Shanghai, and that has triggered buying in gold as well,” said Ronald Leung, chief dealer at Lee Cheong Gold Dealers in Hong Kong. “

http://www.reuters.com/article/global-precious-idUSL3N17M2NW

” “We’ve seen some good fund buying that triggered stops through the recent highs in silver, which eventually spilt over into gold as the move gained momentum,” said David Govett, head of precious metals at broker Marex Spectron Group in London. “Will silver continue to outperform gold? If stock markets stay firm or move up then yes, if they slump, then no.”

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-04-19/gold-drops-as-fed-s-rosengren-sees-healthy-u-s-stocks-advance