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Mr Copper

Posted by goldielocks @ 14:17 on November 10, 2025  

My Grandmother knew Reagan too since the acting days I think she said in Chicago. I meantioned to her the young wanted to vote for him because he wanted to legalize pot which I.believd it should too even though I didn’t smoke it I thought arresting people over it was ridiculous. She told me he smokes pot too. It’s not too much a hidden thing now but I don’t think he was much worried about it since he even had it placed on the table after dinners.

I looked up Reagan and the great SS heist. See what it said. It left out obummer who also borrowed. They all used up all the decades if reserves it needs now that never got paid back.  Not to mention demos giving it including disability to new illegals. Ordered them to make up things to put them in SS  disability after giving them a SS number.perbwhiztld blower shocked and disgusted by it.

Ronald Reagan did not directly “take” money from Social Security to balance the budget, but his administration’s policies, established through the bipartisan Social Security Amendments of 1983, led to the accumulation of Social Security surpluses that were invested in general government expenditures. 
Here’s how the process worked:
  • 1983 Amendments: Facing an imminent funding gap in Social Security, a bipartisan commission appointed by Reagan developed a compromise plan to ensure the system’s long-term solvency. This plan included accelerating payroll tax increases, gradually raising the retirement age, and for the first time, taxing the benefits of higher-income recipients.
  • Creation of Surpluses: These measures generated significant Social Security surpluses, meaning more money was collected in payroll taxes than was paid out in benefits at the time.
  • Investment in General Fund: By law, these surplus funds were (and still are) invested in special-issue U.S. Treasury securities, which are essentially loans to the federal government backed by the “full faith and credit” of the U.S. government. The money received from the sale of these securities goes into the Treasury’s general fund and is used to fund general government operations and reduce the need for borrowing from the public.
  • Budgetary Context: The practice of including Social Security trust fund transactions within the unified federal budget began under President Lyndon B. Johnson in 1968. While this accounting practice made the overall budget deficit appear smaller, the funds were always legally separate and accounted for as an asset of the Social Security trust funds (in the form of the special bonds). The 1983 amendments actually included a provision to eventually remove Social Security operations from the unified budget, a change that was fully implemented by 1990. 
In essence, the Social Security program generates interest income from the government on the money it “lends” it, and the government is obligated to repay these funds with interest when needed to pay benefits. Every president since Reagan has continued this practice, but the idea that Reagan uniquely “stole” or “diverted” the funds for other purposes is a common misconception about federal budget mechanics.
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Multiple presidents have seen the federal government borrow from the Social Security trust fund, though the practice began with Lyndon B. Johnson to pay for the Vietnam War. More recently, the George W. Bush administration is cited for borrowing from the fund, and Ronald Reagan signed legislation that increased Social Security taxes to ensure the system’s solvency.

  • Often cited as the first president to borrow from the trust fund to help cover costs associated with the Vietnam War.

  • Signed the Social Security Amendments of 1983, which included a bipartisan vote to raise payroll taxes to shore up the system’s long-term solvency. This increase generated a surplus that the government later borrowed from.

  • The government borrowed a significant amount from Social Security surpluses during his presidency to cover budget deficits from tax cuts and the Iraq War.

  • Critics have pointed to accounting methods in his proposals that they claim double-counted the Social Security surplus.

 

 

Ronald Reagan did not directly “take” money from Social Security to balance the budget, but his administration’s policies, established through the bipartisan Social Security Amendments of 1983, led to the accumulation of Social Security surpluses that were invested in general government expenditures. 
Here’s how the process worked:
  • 1983 Amendments: Facing an imminent funding gap in Social Security, a bipartisan commission appointed by Reagan developed a compromise plan to ensure the system’s long-term solvency. This plan included accelerating payroll tax increases, gradually raising the retirement age, and for the first time, taxing the benefits of higher-income recipients.
  • Creation of Surpluses: These measures generated significant Social Security surpluses, meaning more money was collected in payroll taxes than was paid out in benefits at the time.
  • Investment in General Fund: By law, these surplus funds were (and still are) invested in special-issue U.S. Treasury securities, which are essentially loans to the federal government backed by the “full faith and credit” of the U.S. government. The money received from the sale of these securities goes into the Treasury’s general fund and is used to fund general government operations and reduce the need for borrowing from the public.
  • Budgetary Context: The practice of including Social Security trust fund transactions within the unified federal budget began under President Lyndon B. Johnson in 1968. While this accounting practice made the overall budget deficit appear smaller, the funds were always legally separate and accounted for as an asset of the Social Security trust funds (in the form of the special bonds). The 1983 amendments actually included a provision to eventually remove Social Security operations from the unified budget, a change that was fully implemented by 1990. 
In essence, the Social Security program generates interest income from the government on the money it “lends” it, and the government is obligated to repay these funds with interest when needed to pay benefits. Every president since Reagan has continued this practice, but the idea that Reagan uniquely “stole” or “diverted” the funds for other purposes is a common misconception about federal budget mechanics.
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Multiple presidents have seen the federal government borrow from the Social Security trust fund, though the practice began with Lyndon B. Johnson to pay for the Vietnam War. More recently, the George W. Bush administration is cited for borrowing from the fund, and Ronald Reagan signed legislation that increased Social Security taxes to ensure the system’s solvency.

  • Often cited as the first president to borrow from the trust fund to help cover costs associated with the Vietnam War.

  • Signed the Social Security Amendments of 1983, which included a bipartisan vote to raise payroll taxes to shore up the system’s long-term solvency. This increase generated a surplus that the government later borrowed from.

  • The government borrowed a significant amount from Social Security surpluses during his presidency to cover budget deficits from tax cuts and the Iraq War.

  • Critics have pointed to accounting methods in his proposals that they claim double-counted the Social Security surplus.

 

Mr.Copper

Posted by aufever @ 13:26 on November 10, 2025  

I can believe Reagan was pretty much a puppet.
As they all were, excluding JFK, except Trump, as you noted.

Gold up $104 … Silver up $2.00

Posted by ipso facto @ 13:19 on November 10, 2025  

Not medical advice but interesting none the less

Posted by ipso facto @ 13:16 on November 10, 2025  

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Posted by ipso facto @ 12:57 on November 10, 2025  

@aufever

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 12:48 on November 10, 2025  

I pretty much agree re Reagan ’81 to ’89 the jobs FLEW away. But I suspect it was his vice president Bush and his crew that was responsible. Because when Reagan was campaigning, and looking good, he was approached and told they would finance his campaign if he took Bush as a running mate.

So Bush had 8 years running the ship, then he won after Reagan and got four more years 12 total. After that, TPTB (Fed Res?) wanted to switch over to democrats, no sense giving Bush another 4 years or 16 years total.

So, they abruptly raised the rates and caused the “Bush Recession” so he lost, and right after that they abruptly lowered the rates. Generally the past presidents were best at doing the talking and getting the votes. The bribed “crew” was leading. Not with Trump though. He’s leading the “crew”.

Mr.Copper

Posted by aufever @ 11:54 on November 10, 2025  

I have never understood the fascination with Reagan.
He greatly encouraged and paid manufacturers to move our production overseas during the 80s. He oversaw the gutting of Made in America, and was a traitor in my opinion.
The one good thing that I know he did is facilitate the production of Gold Eagles. See the post below.

Gold ownership in U.S.

Posted by aufever @ 11:47 on November 10, 2025  

The legal ability for U.S. citizens to own gold was established when President Gerald Ford signed a law in 1974, which became effective on December 31, 1974. This act ended a four-decade ban on private gold ownership that had been put in place by President Franklin D. Roosevelt.

The Gold Bullion Coin Act of 1985

The origins of the Gold Bullion Coin Act are both political and economic. In part, the Act was a response to the rising popularity of foreign national coins, like the South African Gold Krugerrand and the Canadian Gold Maple Leaf.

In 1984, “more than $600 million worth of Krugerrands were marketed in the United States,” however, sales plummeted in mid- to late 1985 as a reaction to “growing racial strife in South Africa and a mounting worldwide protest against apartheid,” reported the Los Angeles Times in October 1985. Per the L.A. Times, South Africa derived half of its foreign exchange earnings from Krugerrand sales, and the U.S. was its biggest market.

Perceiving the Krugerrand as a symbol of apartheid, President Reagan banned imports of the coin effective October 11, 1985, “formally denying South Africa its most lucrative market for gold coins” and punishing the “white-run Pretoria government for its racial policies.”

While the Canadian Gold Maple Leaf Coin stood to fill the supply gap created by the Krugerrand ban, the U.S. wanted to join the national gold coin business, too, which is where the Gold Bullion Coin Act of 1985 enters into the picture.

The details of the Gold Bullion Coin Act
During the 1980s, the state of the world economy and political scene made for favorable demand for gold bullion coins. Relations between the U.S. and Russia were rough, American unemployment was on the rise, and Social Security was on the rocks—to name a few factors.

In 1984, reports Coin World, “the Krugerrand still held about two-thirds of the gold bullion coin market worldwide. By early 1986, that distinction belonged to the Maple Leaf.”

The Gold Bullion Coin Act, however, paved the way for the U.S. to compete with the likes of the Canadian Maple Leaf. It required that the U.S. Mint start producing a family of 22-karat gold bullion coins in one-half, one-quarter, and one-tenth denominations and it defined everything from the coins’ diameters to their design.

In short, the Gold Bullion Coin Act of 1985:

Directed the Secretary of the Treasury to mint and issue gold coins in $50, $25, $10, and $5 denominations
Mandated that the specified gold coins be issued in quantities sufficient to meet public demand
Required the gold for such coins to be mined from natural deposits in the U.S. or in a U.S territory, within one year after the month in which the ore was mined
Prohibited the Secretary from paying more than the average world price for gold
Allowed gold to be used from U.S. reserves in the absence of available supplies of such mined gold at the average world price
Required any profit from the sale of such coins to be deposited in the Treasury and applied towards reducing the national debt
This legislation offered support to American miners, eventually led to the establishment of the American Eagle Gold Bullion Program, and in 1986 the production of one of the world’s most popular gold bullion coins: the Gold American Eagle.

Source:
https://www.usmoneyreserve.com/news/coins/gold-bullion-act-1985/

New Poll! New Poll!

Posted by ipso facto @ 11:35 on November 10, 2025  

Vote! Vote!

Hello Buygold

Posted by aufever @ 11:18 on November 10, 2025  

Thanks for your vote.
Since my rebate is unlikely, and I didn’t qualify my offer, do you like Taco Bell? Lol

@ Buygold re 2:41

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 11:01 on November 10, 2025  

Re your “What a f*cking country we’ve become,”

The decline started after Silver coins stopped being produced in 1965, then the gold backing was removed from the US Dollar in 1971. After 1971 the idiots created the EPA for wealth absorbing jobs versus wealth producing jobs.

After 1981 the off shoring picked up speed. Then back around 1989 they moved the factories from Japan etc all to China.

Also the decline started after 1969 when the Americans gleefully started buying imported cars, then in 1984 no more American TV sets.  No more American tools machinery or even our clothing. The leaders gave away our factory.

I guess these aren’t the buyers today

Posted by ipso facto @ 10:39 on November 10, 2025  

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Buygold

Posted by ipso facto @ 10:32 on November 10, 2025  

There’s joy in Mudville! 🙂

Posted by ipso facto @ 10:31 on November 10, 2025  

So what happens when millions of people especially young people can’t find jobs on account of AI and other factors? Which way do you think they’re gonna vote? Who is going to promise more? Obviously the socialists …

Good action

Posted by Buygold @ 10:30 on November 10, 2025  

After the usual selling at the SM open. Good volume in the shares but in particular the small caps I watch.

This could be the beginning of the next leg higher. HUI back above 600. Would like to see silver above $50, but if this is the next leg we should be looking at $50 in the rear view window pretty soon.

The only thing I don’t like is that the SM is so strong.

9 O’clock scum demolition mob

Posted by adogsbody @ 9:07 on November 10, 2025  

just showed up….

Dog

So, what’s new friends?

Posted by ipso facto @ 9:00 on November 10, 2025  

Morning maddog

Posted by Buygold @ 8:10 on November 10, 2025  

You’re right, shorts have to be stunned right now and don’t know what’s hitting them.

Looks like it will be up to Crimex to stop the runaway train. $4100 and $50 gone. Wow.

edit: Crimex on overdrive. Immediately take G & S below the round numbers. They are still a force to be reckoned with, unfortunately

All recent shorts are looking around nervously…this was not supposed to happen….!!!!!

Posted by Maddog @ 7:36 on November 10, 2025  

Long term perspectives, show this thing has barely started….

Posted by Maddog @ 6:33 on November 10, 2025  

We are still under /above some major long term trend lines, which we have recently hit and failed to break….looks like we have to build the power to break them by trading under/above them, fore a while….which suggests , this new up move will get back to recent Hi’s and then maybe fail, mor maybe not….but what this new up move does show, is that we almost certainly do not have a major top in…..

Au/Ag

hui/au

xau/au

Silver hit $50

Posted by Buygold @ 5:42 on November 10, 2025  

and backed off, hopefully just the first strike. Shares are flying premarket. Looks like Friday was a good tell.

Good early morning aufever

Posted by Buygold @ 2:41 on November 10, 2025  

Spent some time on the east coast of Florida this weekend, over at Ft. Pierce and then Patrick AFB with some old mates.

You are right though, I wouldn’t qualify, not being a native, but I’d still vote for the penalties for wayward New Yorkers. 🙂

Looks like the metals are all of a sudden back in short supply in the overnights.

There’s a bit of a celebration across all markets that the gov’t. will re-open now that the Demons finally caved on the CR. Might be the first time in history the Repubs didn’t crater to media pressure.

A bit odd that everything is in rally mode given that rates are up 5 bips and the dollar is a little higher.

Did you see that Trump is trying to undermine the Supreme Court’s decision on tariffs by promising “we the people” a $2K dividend from the tariff revenues? The Supreme Court has no business weighing in on the tariffs in the first place, it’s Congress’ job, but they will anyway because they are the Globalist’s captured court. What a f*cking country we’ve become, we’ve turned the country over to a bunch of corrupt lawyers and a corrupt judiciary.

Hopefully the rally lasts into tomorrow.

Gold Train

Posted by Maya @ 2:16 on November 10, 2025  

Cliffhanger
https://www.railpictures.net/photo/889158/

 

Hava anyone heard from Buygold

Posted by aufever @ 1:35 on November 10, 2025  

I don’t think he has posted since Friday morning

Omgoodness Ron Paul

Posted by goldielocks @ 0:05 on November 10, 2025  

I think people want sustainability in the market good or bad today not looking at the future so they can invest accordingly no matter what happens to the country.  Even if it leads to eliminating people for robots…A dead end.

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