Fierce battle with the dollar
pretty good back and forth.
To tank or not to tank – that is the question.
maddog – not sure if it’s Powell or this news in Lebanon but we’re catching a nice bid
shares still trying to play catch-up but dollar starting to tank as Goldman buys 10 yr. calls (supposedly)
“We recommend that US citizens in Lebanon make appropriate arrangements to leave.”
Maddog @ 11:37
Too tell you the truth I still don’t know the truth of that particular incident. There’s plenty of blame to go around I think and AFAIC we should stay out of it as much as possible.
Cheers
PS I know that it’s quite common for Hamas to put their installations in amongst civilians and when they’re attacked they cause civilian casualties.
Buygold
No matter what Joe Demented has cooked up, I don’t see it working….the charts are looking like we go to new Hi’s in Au v soon and keep going….the Oil sector also looks ready to run big time……the news ain’t gonna get good any time soon……according to the charts.
The shorts in the PM stox are about to be nailed to the wall……Nem has to be a screaming buy here.
Re Dollar and rates starting to come back
In the past 7 days GLD is up 4% while $tnx ten year bond rate is up 8%. So both have been going up together. The past 7 days.
On a six month chart with the same overlay, $tnx is up 40% with gold down about 2%, even with that abnormal ridiculous $1825 low on Oct 5-6th.
@ Ipso RE: “I expect the gov just kept it for itself”
Speaking personally – I see government and JPM/GS/etc. as two sides of the same coin.
they fine themselves one day, then subsidize themselves the next
Dollar and rates starting to come back in a little harder now
Wondering if Powell is speaking. Course, we aren’t getting the pop we should be getting, exactly because he’s speaking.
Thems the rules if you want to own pm’s.
Tracking the SM
Metals kind of tracking the dollar, but the shares still look like crap
ipso facto
Re JDAM
The Pallys would have lined up all 500 bodies and taken the BBC, NBC etc on a guided tour of every one of them…..This is a classic ploy of theirs, they commit an attrocity , Israel gets ready to clean house and then then Pallys are claiming the Israeli’s hit a school, kinder garden, old peoples home, hospital etc.
and the likes of the BBC, NBC, CNN are wailing for days…….
Beats me
JDAM pic.twitter.com/A2nCwn7oaq
— The_Real_Fly (@The_Real_Fly) October 18, 2023
Maddog @ 9:49
They’ll soon find out … it’s a tragedy for them!
ipso facto
Re Poland…the turnout was a major record and the Schwab/EU rent boy Tusk won…….I say that vote stinks……as do so many votes where the WEF candidate wins.
It’s a puzzle to me why the voters in Poland elected a new left gov. I thought they had one of the only sane govs around.
Meanwhile, the European Union ministers are meeting soon to discuss immigration plans on how to allow MORE fake refugees into the EU and distribute them around to different countries.
The new government in Poland will be changing the previous government's policy and accepting a… https://t.co/1VcoS7j8gR
— Wall Street Silver (@WallStreetSilv) October 19, 2023
Good morning drb2 @ 9:15
I’ve never heard of any investors receiving that money. I expect the gov just kept it for itself. That’s doesn’t surprise me. ![]()
@ Ipso RE: beaten up PM investors
Hi Ipso,
Yep, their plan has worked perfectly – can’t have that pesky real money threaten their fiat.
Here’s a question – JPM was recently fined $900+ million.
Where does that money go? I can’t remember seeing anything at all about restitution to the victims of JPM’s crimes.
[snip] ….The JPMorgan case was part of a crackdown by federal prosecutors on illegal spoofing, where traders place bogus orders to move prices up or down and then quickly cancel them before they can be executed. Smith and Nowak used the technique to manipulate gold and silver prices from 2008 to 2016, or the entire duration of the period in which we said – and showed – that gold manipulation was rampant, for which were frequently mocked and ridiculed.
Convictions for Smith, Nowak and a third trader who was found guilty in November, Christopher Jordan, capped a string of wins by prosecutors in spoofing cases targeting some of Wall Street’s biggest banks, including Bank of America, Deutsche Bank AG and Morgan Stanley. Two former Deutsche Bank and two former Bank of America traders previously each received one-year sentences.
JPMorgan, the largest US bank and the biggest US financial criminal enterprise by far, agreed in 2020 to pay $920 million to settle the Justice Department’s allegations against it — the biggest fine by any financial institution accused of market manipulation since the 2008 global financial crisis.
Prosecutors also charged several members of the team Nowak led at JPMorgan. Three of them pleaded guilty and testified against Nowak and Smith. The witnesses described how Nowak and Smith routinely placed huge buy and sell orders they never intended to execute — part of their strategy to push prices in the direction that would profit the bank.
Christiaan Trunz, a former Smith protege and one of the traders who pleaded guilty and cooperated, told jurors that he learned to spoof by watching Nowak and Smith for years. When Trunz came under scrutiny for his own spoof trades, he said Nowak coached him to lie to compliance officials and later counseled him against pleading guilty as prosecutors were preparing criminal charges against top executives on the trading desk.
Trunz testified that Smith was so fast at placing and canceling bogus orders that his colleagues would joke that he needed to put ice on his fingers to cool them down.
“This was an open strategy on the desk,” said Trunz, who sat next to Smith and watched him click his computer mouse rapidly to place and cancel trades. “It wasn’t hidden.”
drb2 @ 21:55
You can hardly blame mining investors from being gun shy. We’ve been hammered for so long that the expectation is that more hammering is on the way. For this reason a turn around is likely to be a drawn out process. But I could be wrong … I often am … ask the missus!
Cheers
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maddog
could be. I’m not getting any good vibes from the action yesterday or this morning. Oil is back in the $86.50 range, from $89 early yesterday (WTI).
You could be right, maybe peace will break out and pm’s will go back to normal.
Powell is speaking today as well, so there’s that too. We don’t go up when he speaks generally.
The dollar has turned south slightly
but the 10 yr is still up 7 bips. Metals still flat, although inching up a bit.
Shares flat.
Having a hard time getting excited about this action after yesterday in the shares.
Don’t want war, but it’s coming anyway. Curious the Israeli’s are waiting. I suspect they are seeing things in the north and south that give them pause.
Apparently we lost our ambassador or embassy in Lebanon. Tells me our Naval fleet may be intending to bomb Hezbollah from the coast to assist Israel.
Buygold
Metals look good but the shares are tied to the hip with the SM.
I think the shares were sat on ystydy , as they are trying to bear raid, stop the Gold rally…….What I hear comming out of Israel, is this
Israel must not give Hezbollah a preemptive blow.
– It is forbidden to occupy the strip.
– We were warned against harming civilians.
– Biden forced the introduction of “humanitarian aid”, and loosened the pressure of the blockade.
– The US will give $100 million in aid to the Strip.
– Six billion dollars to Iran were not frozen.
– The administration will continue to claim that there is “no direct evidence” of Iranian involvement in the attack, thus protecting the continuation of its disastrous policy in the IDF from American public opinion.
– The position of the United States is that the majority of Palestinians who voted for Hamas do not really support it.
– Biden reiterated his belief in the two-state solution.
On the other hand:
– We received a generous aid package (which will also deepen our military dependence on the Americans).
– Two aircraft carriers arrived in the area with the stated goal of preventing Hezbollah from attacking (but on the condition that we would not attack either. We agreed).
– “The cooperation was deepened” (that is, American representatives were screwed into our decision-making processes so that we do not decide anything that is not approved by them).
– We got a hug.
in brief:
Biden blocked any way to an unequivocal Israeli victory picture, something that would make it clear to our enemies that we are weak, and dependent on others. A historic visit indeed. He made an important contribution to tipping the balance of power in the region against us.
If this was to pan out then in theory we deescalate…for a while….hence the hit on PM’s and Oil…..Not sure anyone else will listen to such crap.
and then there’s this…
Our Globalist masters do not want peace, I understand Israel’s desire for vengeance.
The question is why does the US want war? This is Israel’s gig, not ours.
Guaranteed this will be a wider war. China and Russia will swoop in and pick up the pieces.
US Vetoes UN Resolution For Gaza Ceasefire As Biden Visit Fails To Calm Fears Of Wider War
Preparations for IDF ground operation said to be complete…
Rates moving up again
10 yr approaching 5% @ 4.97%, Dollar flat though.
PM’s flat, dollar flat. Oil down a buck to $87
Not a ZH subscriber, but this would make total sense. Add to the this, there is a meeting involving 120 countries tomorrow for China/Russia belt and road initiative.
We may have found the culprit behind the historic blow out in US Treasury yields.
@ ipso RE: “poor day for the shares in light of the gain in gold”
Yep. Like Pavlov’s Dog, shareholders have been conditioned to run at the first sign of resistance.
I probably would have run too, except I have already resigned myself to going down with the ship.
On Judgement Day – there will be a lot of explaining to do for the management of these companies
Think about it – the safest place in the world to store your PM is in a mine – it CANNOT be stolen without immense EFFORT!




