Loading ...Trump can’t get 20 B for a wall but Obama can give 150 B to Iran.
Can’t believe EU wants to continue Iran deal
Putting sales of products before safety of others when they use the money to fund terrorism and build missles that can hit their shores. The fact that they know it has hurt other areas in ME should be enough. Just total lack of any morals. Then they play humanitarian when it’s all about money while putting their own citizens in danger as well and then feed them tollarance propaganda.
Maya
Hope your home stays intact after everything you’ve been through.
Saw that one man has been seriously injured by lava getting hit on the shin standing on his balcony. That a splatter could be as heavy as getting hit by a refrigerator. I hope his leg is salvageable as news seems to over dramatize everything but didn’t sound good.
The Iran Nuclear Deal: fatal flaws that Trump needs to fix
A lot of articles on the subject and a lot of opinions. I think that the major flaws are:
1- The deal has a sunset clause that allows Iran to develop nuclear weapons in the near future.
2-Trust but verify. The UN cannot inspect Iran nuclear sites without issuing a 23 day notice in advance.
3-Iranian military bases are not subject to investigation, …period.
4-The deal does not address Iran’s ongoing ballistic missile program.
5-The deal does not have any provisions to stop Iran’s support of terrorism.
EU sources deny report of proposed new nuclear deal with financial aid for Iran
BERLIN (Reuters) – Three European Union sources have denied that diplomats meeting in Vienna on Friday to salvage the imperiled Iranian nuclear deal after Washington withdrew will discuss offering Iran financial aid in exchange for concessions.
A German newspaper reported on Sunday that diplomats from Britain, Germany, France, China and Russia will meet in Vienna on Friday to discuss next steps after the May 8 decision by U.S. President Donald Trump to pull out of a 2015 nuclear accord with Iran.
The Welt am Sonntag newspaper cited an unnamed senior EU official as saying that the diplomats would discuss a proposal for a new agreement between Iran and world powers that would be the same as the 2015 deal but with some additions to appease the United States.
These could include provisions to address U.S. concerns over Iran’s ballistic missile program and Tehran’s support of armed groups in the Middle East, the source said.
USA and China agree to reduce trade deficit
Certainly, a lot of details to be worked out, but this agreement is a significant win for President Trump.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/us-china-agree-to-reduce-370b-trade-deficit
Rivers of Lava
…flowed from the extended fissure 20 today. Lava advanced downhill at a flooding rate of 100 yards per hour to the south. My ham friends report minutes ago that the lava crossed the coast Hwy 137 and is about to enter the ocean. This has split lower Puna into two sections now. The west side at Kalapana is only accessible on Hwy 130 which has cracks across the road near the eruptive zone. They put steel plates across the cracks to keep the road open, and so far the cracks are not steaming. But if that road is cut, Kalapana will be isolated.
On the east side of the lava flow, residents of the Kapoho area can still escape around the beach road at Cape Kumukahi, the eastern tip of the island.
Steam explosions continue to occur from the summit crater Halemaumau. Last night at midnight one blast put a plume up 10,000 ft.
Woah woah woah ipso, I wasn’t threatening anyone with death, I was responding to Copper’s instigation of causing death.
I was agreeing with his $25k bounty on those who cause such mayhem. That bounty is incarceration for anything less than murder and rape.
Why we all need to be violent is beyond me. I will always call out those who think they are righteous to kill another, for anything other than family protection.
treefrog @ 20:43 re long standing disputes…
Just some instinctive thoughts. I’m no historian. So. Would it be fair to say the Jewish people left the Middle east 2000 years ago, and migrated north to Europe where they excelled? I would assume, if they never left the M/E they would might be somewhat backwards like the masses that stayed down there.
Decades ago an old man coworker Bill Hatfield was his name. Said to me, the words anti-semitic didn’t make sense, because everybody over there were semites? I just looked it up. I guess its a language. So anti-semitic really means anti Jews and Arabs?
Semite: “a member of any of the peoples who speak or spoke a Semitic language, including in particular the Jews and Arabs.”
long standing disputes…
the “holy land”was promised to the children of abraham. just which of those children would have it (and how much of it, and which parts of it) has been a matter of dispute almost constantly since old abe kicked the bucket.
i think it is unrealistic to expect resolution of this question any time soon. (or ever, for that matter.)
i live thousands of miles from the disputed real estate – it is none of my concern. i wish our nation’s leaders could adopt this attitude. we do not have a dog in that fight, there is nothing for us to win.
In the New Poll
I did vote “yes”
But only if they are good neighbors…
OK Folks
I’m pretty responsible for some of the divisiveness going on here. Just get tired of certain stuff getting thrown out there without being challenged AND when challenged the name calling begins.
We have a tight knit group here and not all of us always agree, but mostly we agree to disagree without descending into name calling.
I guess if Ipso and Floridagold agree, we could have a vote about whether to keep Elliott in the group.
Let’s see how things play out?
Wait wait wait
Now the useless troll thinks we should delete posts. After he was just saying how much he deserves to be in the room with us and we should not delete him. This little game is gone too far tree frog. I guarantee Wonka would have kicked his ass out
Califazuela
Why Are So Many People Moving Out Of California?
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-19/why-are-so-many-people-moving-out-california
MM
Please don’t threaten the other posters. You’re better than that.
Mr Copper
Trump is trying to salvage some of those jobs through taxes and next fair trade.
I’m not sure how he went about it but hope a Demo that might come along later hopefully not who knows even a Demo in Repubs clothing can’t change it.
In some countries they give frozen 20 year low rates.
Not just what they give to China they copy everything. Silicon Valley having a real problem with that.
Macro
Macro my DJ friend, defense is mostly equal force when one force is stronger than the other. Buygold is a force that can take care of himself. He stopped therefore we should.
Re Mass Killers: Any Fishermen, Trappers or Exterminators Know, You Need Bait To Attract
Remember the WANTED signs in the Wild West days? $5000 REWARD Jessie James Dead Or Alive. Nothing good comes cheap. You get what you pay for.
They need to pass a law and let it be widely known on prime time TV,…..
A reward of $50,000 will be paid to anyone who truthfully admits to authorities, suicidal thoughts about killing themselves and others. Be it by car, truck, firearms, or any other means.
A $25,000 reward will be paid to friends family or acquaintances that know of people that have admitted to them suicidal thoughts about killing themselves and others. Be it by car, truck, firearms, or any other means.
At least the authorities could compile a list.
goldielocks @ 3:43 The Damage Has Already Been Done. It Can’t Get Any Worse For Us Long Term. Short Term Yes.
Re “we have to start worrying about ourselves. ” Many of us locals started doing that in the ’70s and ’80s. Now a days, the world gov’t itself is worried about the us consumer.
Re “China stealing technology by the billions.” Huh? Stealing? For one, TPTB GAVE our missile technology to China long ago. China is a “state” in one world gov’t mess they created.
Re “Trade is in the negative for us but at least Trump working on that.” I’m sure there are MANY global people, long time benefactors of globalization involved in the agenda to make America able to SPEND and pay down debt again. Populism caused by lower living standards here, goes against them and their future.
Re “Armstrong is talking about a depression now ” My view the depression, higher taxes, low wages and lower living standards started after 1980. That past depression led to the collapse in 2008. The Collapse was NOT because of prosperity since 1975. Accumulation of error or embezzlement, finally took hold. Coming depressions will probably occur in countries that benefitted the most, from transfers of USA industries.
Sorry Packy
I’ll take a break from this conversation. I’ve always appreciated your posts.
I don’t hold any particular Religious beliefs, but sure don’t hold anything against someone who does.
Food for thought, and I’m not defending Iran or Muslims.
OK – I’m done. 🙂
Ipso
Lol Then you put a question about Isreal on the poll. Hope people haven’t changed their minds now lol Yes Isreal has a right to exist but so do the Palestines.
I don’t think even the Muslims cared about them is the problem. They’ve kept them poor and ” expendable” by their leaders even the children with propaganda to do their bidding and still do.
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