Trump is moving so fast, the Libtards cant set traps fast enough. lol !!

Good Morning,

I have read joe12pack message and felt it necessary to comment. In simple terminology, I do not agree with any of your presented and shared insight or that of Armstrong’s babble of misinformation. Gold and silver are in simple fact money. Modern financial fanatical wizards have endeavored, in ever means possible …. to manipulate the essence of honest and accountability to our banking system. ( and yes we need a banking subsystem) We have in a short time frame gone from gold to paper to plastic to digits and the end result will be the lost of all financial and living freedom, as we know today. Even these are being manipulated away from you in many different venues of corruption. It is openly called NWO….and you are not invited, into the leadership.

In conclusion, either in the coming months and year we see this reality of the masters past work or be certain they will close the door for ever. You know and I know we need a new direction….

Gold/ silver investors know this….story of reality….I too could babble on and on, and will not …

To reiterate YOU know the truth and we must not be divided……so to say, smile.

Enjoy life as well as possible and realize we truly live in interesting times.

Wanka … cheers to you.

enjoyed the feisty debate you two have going. What if both of you have parts of it right? What my binary trading part of me wants to know, is gold going up or down today? Just need to know which way to bet for today. 🙂

Your DNA (fact) says you are one or the other, your feelings (emotions) are telling you the opposite. Some confused folks out there !

Just hope I don’t wake up one morning and shave my legs instead of my whiskers. 🙂

That VR coffee seems to be doing the trick this morning. Nice little pop overnight in the PM’s, now lets see if we can build a head of steam today. Wooooo Wooooo !! ( Or however Boxcar Willie would make that train noise.)

California Considering Legislation To Recognize New Gender; Are You “Male, Female, or Nonbinary”?

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-01/california-considering-legislation-recognize-new-gender-are-you-female-male-or-nonbi

Running the Royal Gorge. Rafts for the Frogs, and a Gold Train for the rest of us.
http://www.railpictures.net/photo/604845/

Did you see that gold chart? Most things regarding the cost of living, like house prices, postage stamp, property taxes etc in my area went up in a steady climb of 7.5% per year.

The lack of understanding from the gold promoters is mind boggling. So if you think gold has been manipulated lower because inflation has gone up while gold hasn’t could you kindly explain why gold dropped for 20 years from 1980 to 2001. Most certainly there was inflation during that time but gold didn’t go up? Why not? It’s very easy to show how little understanding you have of how the markets work and anyone listening to you is most assuredly going to lose their shirts.

No one has enough money to change the long term trends. Gold will bottom only when it is ready and not one day before. And with the number of vocal gold bugs still around we still have to move lower. Only when the last gold bug has thrown in the towel is when the bottom will be finally in.

New White House Petition: ‘Issue an International Arrest Warrant for George Soros’

http://www.brotherjohnf.com/new-white-house-petition-issue-international-arrest-warrant-george-soros/

Thugs at UC Berkley riot over a conservative speaker. They are so one sided they make Repub students pay thousands for security at the last minute knowing these kids don’t have that kind of money.

Supposedly Japan was never the same after that era. In fact Sony TVs are now made in China. Anyway, below is a Dow chart back to 1970.

After March 2000 it dropped 2,000 points. After 2008 it dropped 3,000 points. If it drops again, watch for a possible 4,000 point drop. However the 8,000 Dow was support two times. If 8,000 is support again we’re talking a 12,000 drop.

Keep in mind re all these “investments” like stocks and bonds that are reflected in a statement in the mail, or e-mail. Nobody actually has their money. As long as the balance keeps climbing, it stops people from withdrawing. It keeps them in for the “ride”.

If or when those balance numbers get smaller, people start withdrawing. And nobody wants to be last one out. They all want out at the same time.

http://www.mrci.com/pdf/dji.pdf

Huh?? Did you see that gold chart? Most things regarding the cost of living, like house prices, postage stamp, property taxes etc in my area went up in a steady climb of 7.5% per year. I believe commodities are the most important responsibility for the master planners, and commodities are lumped in with utilities. Controlled, and no monopoly allowed for the public good.

Its most important for gov’t to maintain supply. If it’s YOUR responsibility to maintain supply, you occasionally manipulate the price above natural market, and the producers investors etc cause OVER investment and over production, and later on, lower prices and ample supply. Look at Oil. $145 down to $26, now around $50.

I used to work with metals, and prices were ALWAYS too low for reality. I was buying sheet steel 4X8 foot sheets, cheaper than plywood, which grows on trees. Metal production is a BITCH compared to wood.

The gov’t media tells us copper goes up in times of a growing economy. Choppy lateral flat prices $1 plus or minus .50 cents from 1971 to 2004. Check out the Copper chart below.

Nobody on the planet with a brain can claim there was no economic growth for 33 years, OR that that Copper price was not controlled. After 9/11/01 the central planners started losing control. Visible on chart. Don’t think, look.

Armstrong may have made a few good calls. Even Sinclair looked great with a $1600 gold price he predicted long before.

http://www.mrci.com/pdf/hg.pdf

P.S. If Gold does drop way down, it would be suggesting or predicting a massive deflation like 1929. That’s ok with me, it would confirm a TOTAL reversal of the past, with a restoration of the Dollars older higher values. The Penny and Nickel would have value again. The stock market’s companies would have trouble making a profit.

Mr. Copper – I have no idea what you are talking about. Armstrong’s computer models forecasts cycles and “reversals” which are important price points that provide support and resistance.

Gold and silver each have their own cycle. It’s when both silver and gold’s cycles converge within the same week is where we find important “turn” dates. The last turn date was 11/30/2015 for silver and 12/07/2015 for gold. And sure enough that marked the exact low. Those dates were given to us before it happened. The next dates coming are clustered in late 2018. We’ll know better when that time comes if we are looking at highs or lows.

The fact that you use the term “typical manipulation” tells me you have little understanding of the markets. No market can ever be manipulated to alter it’s long term trend. And if there are any short term manipulations its usually to the upside not the downside.

I’m sure most the people claiming armstrong calls suck or what not don’t pay a red cent for his material or go to his conferences (both of which I have done). I witnessed his gold+silver call he made in advance play out so I am a believer. You can choose to believe who you want.

But so far his real estate call is dead on (real estate is headed lower). His Bonds call is playing out right now (topping after a 34 year bull run). His calls for a stronger are dead on (we should challenge the old 1985 highs) and finally his calls for DOW 24k and potentially 40k is playing out. I don’t rely on his for short term trading advice but his long term stuff has been spot on.

He’s not taking into consideration, of the various dollar’s value or the typical manipulation in the futures markets. He’s not adjusting for rising or declining annual gold production, depending on price or purity. Years ago 1 oz out of a ton was good. These days they are happy with 4-5 grams per ton.

House 1971, cost in dollars $40,000, Gold cost was $140, = 285 oz’s to buy house.

House 2017, cost in dollars $400,000, Gold cost $1200, = 333 oz’s to buy house. Gold cheaper today than 1971.

Car 1971, cost in dollars $3,000, Gold cost was $140, = 21 oz for car.

Car 2017, cost in dollars $35,000, Gold cost $1200, = 29 ozs for a car, Gold cheaper again.

Typical wages in 1971, $10,000, Gold cost $140, = 71 ozs annual pay in gold.

Typical wages in 2017, $50,000, gold cost $1200, = 41 ozs annual pay in gold. <<<

Wages are 42% LOWER than in 1971, USA peak of prosperity. There lies the bottom line problems of today. Wages and net tax receipts are too low, and we have a $19 trillion TAB.

http://www.mrci.com/pdf/gc.pdf

He’s been wrong so many times I can’t even count them anymore

London’s Muslim Mayor Hosts Party With 11 Nations That Ban the Jewish State
By Pamela Geller – on February 1, 2017

Islamic Jew-hatred – it’s in the Quran, and London’s Muslim mayor is a devout Muslim.

Note the silence of the left.

LONDON MAYOR HOSTS PARTY WITH 11 NATIONS THAT BAN ISRAELIS
By Donna Rachel Edmunds, Breitbart, January 31, 2017:

NIGEL FARAGE HAS CALLED MAYOR OF LONDON SADIQ KHAN A “HYPOCRITE” FOR CENSURING THE U.S. PRESIDENT OVER A TEMPORARY BAN ON IMMIGRATION FROM SOME MAJORITY-MUSLIM STATES WHILE HOSTING A PARTY WITH DIGNITARIES FROM 11 NATIONS THAT BAN ISRAELIS.

Mayor Sadiq Khan has called on the government to rescind its offer of a full state visit to President Donald J. Trump while the policy remains in place, prompting the former UKIP leader to tweet: “You want Trump banned from UK but are happy with anti-Israeli discrimination. You are a hypocrite @SadiqKhan.”

http://pamelageller.com/2017/02/londons-jew-hating-muslim-mayor.html/

Wilson’s last job might give us even further insight into her agenda to force vaccines and oust Trump.

Last job: Senior pharmaceutical sales representative, GlaxoSmithKline
Legislative specialty: Foreign affairs, civil rights, human rights and healthcare

Her “human rights” label might be a bit misleading, considering stripping parents of their parental rights is pretty anti-human rights. Wilson would likely do anything to push Trump out of the way at this point, however, she will operate under the guise of “social issues.” Trump is a “racist” and “mysoginist.” But the reality is, he’s in the way of her ultimate agenda to force vaccinate kids. She’s a crony for Pharma. She probably stands to make a lot of bribe cash.

https://truthkings.com/trumps-vaccine-war-with-florida-lawmaker/

Yen might work to a point. They’re on a balance board. Have to watch numbers as well as USD. Once yen at 120 keep a eye on it 120-130. 130 May cause problems to them depending on what the rest of the worlds currencies doing.

The top graph/Fibonacci projection is what I graphed based on my ABC analysis and I get a final low somewhere in the range of $858-$915 which is in line with what Armstrong is looking for.

It still amazes me to this day his call for a turn date for Gold of the week of Dec 7th, 2015 after the relentless 5 year drop- it turned out to be THE absolute low in gold. Mr. Copper don’t you wish your calls were as accurate as his?

Armstrong’s calls are amazing.  The next stop is the week of Sept 10, 2018. So the low will come in by then and after that we lift off.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-01/senate-confirms-rex-tillerson-secretuary-state