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Auandag….That was just the warmup. Did you watch this one??

Posted by silverngold @ 22:13 on May 18, 2015  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=jQLNMljadyo

This was posted somewhere.

Posted by goldielocks @ 22:12 on May 18, 2015  

If you believe that HELM stands for Homeland Eradication of Local Militants, then Joint Acquisition Disarmament Exercise fits much better for JADE. Further, look at Public Law 87-297, dated Sept. 26, 1961, aka the Arms Control and Disarmament Act, enacted by Congress.
If JADE HELM is ultimately about gun confiscation, then it would fit that the word DISARMAMENT is in both the operation’s name and this Act.

Something is going to happen

Posted by commish @ 21:16 on May 18, 2015  

For What its Worth!

Posted by Auandag @ 20:43 on May 18, 2015  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PS7Jl1dMIOY

This really ticks me off. If the govvy wants people to hate them then keep it up!

Posted by ipso facto @ 19:46 on May 18, 2015  

DEA Strikes Again: Seize Man’s Life Savings Under Civil Asset Forfeiture Without Charges

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-05-18/dea-strikes-again-seize-mans-life-savings-under-civil-asset-forfeiture-without-charg

My view on Social Security, welfare, and other freebie’s

Posted by silverngold @ 18:36 on May 18, 2015  

My understanding on Social Security is/was that you and your employer both paid into your Social Security. It required a minimum of 40 quarters (10 years) contributions in order to draw any benefits when you reach retirement age, but you earned the right  to Social Security benefits when you retire. A major flaw of the program is that the gov cheats on the annual inflation rate adjustments making it more difficult every year to live on your Social Security.

Unemployment Ins worked similarly. Both employee and employer paid into UI so in the event you became unemployed and were  unable to find employment within a reasonable amount of time UI would kick in to keep you going for certain limits as long as you were actively looking for employment. Again, this was a program that was paid for by both employee and employer and should not be considered welfare since you earned the right to draw it when needed.

Welfare or foodstamps?? What ever happened to “a days work for a days pay“?? As others have stated, there are generations of people who have never worked a day in their life. They simply hold out their hand and a benevolent gov fills it with money. No need to stand in line for it. No need to get out of bed to get it. I guess they do have to still go shopping for their groceries but I would bet a lot of them opt for home delivery and still don’t have to even get dressed to receive it. Now as I understand it they all have a card that will cover their food needs so even those in front and behind them in the checkout line have no idea they are receiving welfare or foodstamps. Do these people deserve to be treated the same as those who get up every day, go to work, earn their wages, scrimp and save to make ends meet???? or do they deserve to be shamed just a little so they have some incentive to get off their asses and off of welfare and off of foodstamps and do something for what they get????????

What ever happened to a days work for a days pay??? Yeah, I’m repeating myself….but nobody…..NOBODY, deserves a free ride through life. No matter what the circumstances almost everyone in this world is capable of doing something. Even if it is menial. I recall in the Army when there was slack time one GI would fill a wheel barrow with shit, another would haul it across the compound and dump it in a pile. Then another GI would load it back onto the wheel barrow and another would haul it back again. Was it productive?? Hell no!! But the point was everybody did something for what they got….and if you didn’t like it you could use your own ingenuity  to get assigned to something else like guard duty or KP or driver training or whatever to improve your status. Well, the same idea needs to be used for this world of freeloaders. A days work for a days pay. No work, no pay, no food….your choice. You don’t like it, do something about it or starve. Your choice!! but no more free ride!!

Once in my youth I was fired from a job due to a back injury suffered on the job, but I had not worked long enough to be in the union so was let go. I applied for UI, drew it for 2 weeks but had to submit so much paperwork as to all the places I had applied for work and why I had not been able to find work that I never went back for another UI check. That is the only time in my working life that I ever used the system, even though I qualified to use it many times over the years. Personal pride always prohibited me from using it.

The same thing has to happen to all these welfare people who have never done anything for what they are getting. A days work for a days pay or starve. It’s up to you!! And no, I’m not talking about that disabled person who can contribute nothing toward his/her sustenance. But it’s time to get the other 99.999999999% of the bums off the dole and make them do a days work for a days pay………. Rant over………………Silverngold

 

WANKA @ 17:47

Posted by ipso facto @ 17:58 on May 18, 2015  

Glad to hear it! At least there’s some integrity left. It’s not all smoke and mirrors. 🙂

Its already happening !

Posted by Ororeef @ 17:19 on May 18, 2015  

If the public refuses to keep SS funds solely for the use of those that paid in then all else is at risk also .
Communists hate private funding ,private use.Your private bank account ,your Savings account ,your PENSIONS,will all be at risk because someone “needs” your money .The Government can “print” the money needed for them and their welfare needs thats ok.
All “private” will be at risk from the Communists because thats who they are ….Politicians are basicly communists whose philosophy is receive according to “need”,”contribute according to “ability” ….
The real problem with that is who wants to do that ? Certainly not those that worked for it.
Every country that adopted that philosophy has failed because the producers stopped producing and left ,voted with their feet.resulting in no investment in their future ,capital left for better more friendly environment, leaving the country with no producers,no Capital, nothing but the “needy”. examples CUBA,Venezuela,bolivia ,communist Russia(they changed)communist China ditto only after they were left 100 years behind in development !
iF OUR COMMUNIST PRESIDENT IS NOT stopped we will end up the same.We must make an about face next election ,8 years of this is about all the country can endure without permanent damage.When capital leaves ..its all over !
It is leaving ! witness Major Corps refusing to bring Capital back home .Thats the beginning of the end…

eeos @ 15:18 SS

Posted by Ororeef @ 16:45 on May 18, 2015  

After paying in for 60 years I ,YOU WE have no choice but to demand they pay to those that paid in and demand they fullfill the contract weather it was implied or written it dosent matter. Every effort by politicians to turn it into a welfare scheme that they can bye votes with needs to be met with a large outcry and rage .
Its the only government program not paid for out of “General Funds”and was a specific “payroll tax”that working people earned .If you didnt pay in …you dont get it period….You must work to get it period.All suggestions that others can get in needs to be met by stiff resistance .No dire need ,no destitute exceptions,no “moral” exceptions.Its a private funded, private annuity type program administered by government that is the only reason it works,there are no moral reasons to give away its assets to the “needy”its not moral to steal ….Its the biggest thorn in the side of the Liberals because it worked without “need “being the criteria for getting a check.
It should NOT be called a “BENEFIT”.Its a Contract…None of it was voluntary.!We also should demand that no person should receive any of its funds that didn’t pay into it as a retirement program.
There are hundreds of other welfare programs funded by taxes that are designed to to be welfare and I have no argument with them.The real problem is they are always broke and SS is not ..thats why the ROBBERS want to ROB its funds ..they are decendents of “willie Sutton” the Bank Robber.DOes anyone condone Bank Robbery of citizens Savings ? If you do then you deserve to be shot for theft of private Savings like the thief you are .
If permitted nothing but chaos and anarchy will result and I am prepared for that ! Are you!
SS needs to be “off limits” to politicians ,thats why its called the Third rail of POLITICS .Violate the contract and you the politician needs to get thrown out on her ASS.or worse !

silverngold

Posted by ipso facto @ 16:42 on May 18, 2015  

I believe Sprott does have what he says in his gold and silver funds … if that was the case in SLV and GLD I’d be very surprised.

Cheers

ipso facto @ 14:53 ….EXACTLY!!

Posted by silverngold @ 15:25 on May 18, 2015  

What I’ve been saying for years. All this BS about phyz  holdings in the ETF’s is nothing but…well…BS. If I’m wrong then show me the phyz audit for each one. Oh yeah, they don’t allow any audits do they??  The only one I reserve judgement on is Sprott. He’s a late comer and I believe if he has his phyz in his possession then he has it….but if he is relying on others like JP Moron then he doesn’t actually have it either. Hope he has it in possession though!!   Silverngold

so larry

Posted by eeos @ 15:18 on May 18, 2015  

should I just keep paying in on social security and just hope things should be okay. What a crack up

Posted by ipso facto @ 14:53 on May 18, 2015  

1428391

Hmmm

Posted by ipso facto @ 14:37 on May 18, 2015  

Saudi Arabia to buy nuclear bombs from Pakistan: report

http://nypost.com/2015/05/17/saudi-arabia-to-buy-nuclear-bombs-from-pakistan-report/

Ororeef

Posted by larryc @ 14:31 on May 18, 2015  

Thank you for saving me the time and trouble! Gesh!

The Zombie Apocalypse

Posted by newtogold @ 13:44 on May 18, 2015  

 

http://www.naturalnews.com/049754_zombie_apocalypse_mindless_voters_irrational_thinking.html

silverngold @ 23:49 Re People Voting With Their Hand Out.

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 12:52 on May 18, 2015  

re your part:
“But like I said, he has bought and paid for so many that are not willing to give up their free ride so he will keep on until he has reduced America to ashes. Is he doing it alone?? No way!!”

The way I see it, it was obvious to me, America to ashes by the summer of 2008. Simply because of the past, that you described. The recent past, starting after 1945, was a big mistake for the long term, and 2008 exposed it.

Everything is in reverse now, but very much of the old past status quo is still visible.

if SS were honest

Posted by eeos @ 12:10 on May 18, 2015  

then it wouldn’t be a bankrupt program. Obviously many many more people extract wealth from it beyond what they put into it. It’s just another tax to my generation. I want an opt out clause. I don’t want anything from them, as long as they want nothing from me.

eeos @ 10:27 Welfare ?

Posted by Ororeef @ 11:23 on May 18, 2015  

It seems to me that if you paid for something its NOT welfare !
I paid for Social Security for 60 years and in addition I was self employed so I paid the employers half ALSO ..Thats hardly welfare, mandated by Law under threat of imprissionment.
I agree with “benefits” not paid for but not SS.

In Virginia as far as un employment is concerned the EMPLOYER pays it all ,the employee nothing .The State nothing, thats not welfare either ! You need to be specific and not Generalize !

Aureus’ key Liberian gold asset on track for first output end-May

Posted by ipso facto @ 10:43 on May 18, 2015  

JOHANNESBURG (miningweekly.com) – Construction of Aureus Mining’s flagship New Liberty gold project, in Liberia, is nearing completion and on track to enable the delivery of first gold by the end of the month, the company noted in a quarterly results statement. New Liberty’s 924 000-oz reserves supported an openpit operation with an average yearly production rate of 1.1-million tons of ore over an eight-year mine life.

more

http://www.miningweekly.com/article/aureus-key-liberian-gold-asset-on-track-for-first-output-end-may-2015-05-18

silverngold, Mr. copper, macedonia

Posted by longtimer @ 10:33 on May 18, 2015  

Another regime change by the neocons and banksters in an attempt to hinder Russia’s Turk gas stream.

Surprising strength in the metals

Posted by Buygold @ 10:31 on May 18, 2015  

Especially silver and considering the USD is in rally mode. Homebuilder sentiment missed, surprising since we are getting near the peak season.

Now, if the shares could just get out of their own way….

welfare thoughts

Posted by eeos @ 10:27 on May 18, 2015  

if you have a pension paid by the state, you’re a welfare recipient. If you get social security, you’re on welfare. If you collect unemployment, you’re on welfare. If you have a government job, you’re on welfare. People just confuse the facts of what constitutes taking a hand out. I could go on and on for years. In the end, when more people are in the wagon than pulling, something bad is going to happen. Probably not in the lifetimes of people in this room, but certainly for my generation

SilverNGold @ 23:49

Posted by Moggy @ 9:51 on May 18, 2015  

Welfare being the cause of America’s apathy doesn’t add up.  If 51% of Americans are receiving some sort of welfare, where are the other 49% who are not exhibiting their displeasure?  As of April 13, 2015, 38.8% of welfare recipients are white.  Are the remainder hiding under a rock?  The American Revolution only took between 3 – 5% of the people of the country to toss the Brits out of North America.  So there are plenty of Americans to do the job today.  Apparently other reasons prevent their doing so, but it isn’t because they are receiving welfare.

The Writing’s on the Wall

Posted by ipso facto @ 9:50 on May 18, 2015  

Shape Of Greek Endgame Emerges: IMF Discussed “Cyprus-Like” Plan After Tsipras Warned Of Looming Default

As we said over the weekend, it’s all about Riga again for Greece. EU leaders will meet on Thursday and Friday in Latvia where PM Alexis Tsipras will try to secure a more favorable outcome than did FinMin Yanis Varoufakis who, last month in Riga, reportedly did more chiding and lecturing than negotiating, a performance that may ultimately cost him his job once all is said and done. The situation is far more urgent this time around, with Greece having tapped its IMF SDR account to make a payment to the Fund and with the banking sector running dangerously low on collateral that can be pledged for emergency liquidity.

A bit more color from Deutsche Bank:

One thing that is starting to come to a head is Greece. With an EU leaders summit in Riga scheduled for Thursday and Friday, we should have a good idea of where current negotiations stand by the end of the week. Talks may well pick up in pace over the next few days with a spokesman for the Syriza party saying on Greek TV (Mega) that ‘we’re striving for a mutually beneficial agreement by Friday’ while pushing the party line that ‘our mandate from the Greek people is to reach an agreement where we stay in the euro area without harsh austerity measures’…

One other factor that will likely add pressure to accelerate negotiations this week is the news over the weekend that Greece came close to being unable to pay the May 12th IMF repayment. According to Greek press Ekathimerini, PM Tsipras sent a letter on May 8th to the IMF’s Lagarde saying that the Greek government would not be able to repay the €750m unless the ECB allowed for Greece to issue more T-Bills. In the end, the government decided that it would only be able to repay after it emerged that Greece could use €650m of Special Drawing Rights issued by the IMF (and in turn exhaust their reserves). Since this, another memo sent by the IMF and reported by the UK’s Channel 4 on Saturday has suggested that Greece will be unable to make the IMF payment due June 5th unless a release of funds is achieved (this marks the next significant payment date).

more http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-05-18/shape-greek-endgame-emerges-imf-discussed-cyprus-plan-after-tsipras-warned-looming-d

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