On the Fed and thinks the correction will be fast. Seems like a event but unless your looking for what he’s watching we won’t know like spread sheets. So I hope I have time to learn what he’s watching.
Hi Maddog Buygold
I’m trying to stay up because I have to buy some more treasuries and for some reason told me to call between 5 am and 6am my time 3 hrs behind theirs. It’s a killer over here. I’m buying more just in case.
The phyzz seems not to affected right now, not too bad. What the Hui will do I don’t know. Some shares are topping only holding on sympathy.
Remember what Powell says may matter if he suggests that any further cuts if he does will be based on data his famous quote if he doesn’t sound too hopeful. That might be concerning especially if it’s only 25 pts till next meeting at least for stocks. Or worse if he doesn’t cut and used data.
I think I’ll go to sleep hopefully.and hope I get back up in a couple of hours. The market isn’t too hospitable to us in the West.
Morning maddog
Yes, this action makes me wonder if they don’t go ahead and cut .50 with a dovish overtone.
Seems pretty obvious the players are frontrunning the decision and started yesterday. I guess if we start to see them come back a few minutes before the announcement we’ll have our answer.
If they do a .25, then I suppose we get whacked for a bit. Going to be interesting.
Mr Copper, Goldielocks
Good call looks like the shares will be well down on the open, as the metals are being clubbed…..
Is this a hit that starts a bigger correction , or just to calm prices down, as the Fed will cut by .5 and metals will fly up.
If we are in an effective revaluation, then why throw money away shorting,…..
I think this is a pretty good AI description of Fed rate decision.
It will also depend on how he explains his decision.
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Market expectationsAs of Tuesday, September 16, 2025, a 25-basis-point cut is widely anticipated by investors. The CME FedWatch tool shows a 96% probability of such a cut, and financial analysts have largely factored it into asset prices.
- Because it is an expected move, a simple 25-basis-point cut is less likely to trigger a massive, immediate rally in stock prices. Some analysts even suggest a short-term, “sell the news” pullback is possible as investors who bought in anticipation of the cut exit their positions.
- A larger, 50-basis-point cut would be a significant surprise and could cause a powerful, immediate rally. Conversely, no cut at all would likely disappoint the market and lead to a sell-off.
The significance of Powell’s commentaryThe key driver of market movement will be Powell’s remarks during his press conference, especially his tone regarding future rate cuts and economic conditions.A dovish 25-basis-point cut
This scenario involves a 25-basis-point cut accompanied by language signaling more rate cuts in the future.- How it happens: Powell would emphasize the need to address the weakening labor market, which is showing signs of softness. The updated “dot plot” of economic projections would likely show officials anticipating multiple cuts by year-end.
- Likely market reaction: This would be perceived positively by the market, potentially leading to moderate gains for equities, especially growth-oriented sectors like technology. A dovish outlook would reinforce confidence that the Fed is poised to support the economy.
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A hawkish 25-basis-point cut
This scenario features a 25-basis-point cut but is accompanied by cautious or non-committal commentary from Powell about further cuts.- How it happens: The Fed might note the weakening jobs market but stress that inflation is still a concern, especially with prices trending upward. Powell could emphasize that future decisions will remain “data-dependent.”
- Likely market reaction: This could be interpreted as a “hawkish cut,” which would disappoint investors who expect more aggressive easing. Stocks could react negatively or remain flat as the prospect of fewer future cuts spooks the market.
- Borrowing costs: The cut would likely be passed on to consumers and businesses in the form of lower interest payments on loans, including mortgages, credit cards, and auto loans. Some of this is already priced in, so the drop may be modest.
- Bond market: Government bond prices would likely rise, and yields would fall, as a rate cut makes existing bonds with higher fixed interest payments more attractive. For dividend stocks, lower bond yields would also make their payouts comparatively more appealing to income investors.
- Savings rates: Interest paid on savings accounts and CDs would probably decline, making saving a less rewarding activity.
- Investment sentiment: With rates trending downward, money tends to flow out of lower-yielding savings and bonds and into higher-risk assets like stocks and real estate, fueling bullish sentiment. However, some analysts are concerned that elevated stock market valuations and other economic factors could pose risks.
Maddog
With Trump and the Fed who seems to lean left good luck with that on anything paper. Least have mental stops cuz I don’t trust the MMs to not drop down and grab up your shares at a discount. The bigger question is when a market correction occurs will it be a fast one or a slow take down through the months while people lose money over time.
Re pm shares and rates
The shares were well weak today, tks to the relative thiness of the mkts…I note Gold was sold down ….to 3674….and in days gone by Gold would no doubt have cratered way more …but as of now Gold is back to 3693, 10 bucks off the hi….that to me says the buyers will take any sellers on….
I will sweat any falls out…..
Mr Copper
Was interrupted. I think if there is no rate cuts it will be negative. If it’s a low 25 pts and expected to be more it could be negative or flat temporarily, if 50 pts and with their mindset unlikely less coerced it would be positive for the market.
Mr Copper
I bet that’s what a lot of people are thinking. But it likely could be temporary too. Either way when the bigger drop comes it would be good to have cash on hand to buy the lows. I followed Buffett and locked in short term interest bills bought and maturing at different months Ill have a opportunity to roll over or cash out. Then of course the phyzz I keep giving away to hold for now but if something happens to me turns irrevocably theirs left where I want it to be ” I’ve been through those rodeo’s before’ so ahead of time then buying more little by little.
Re Fed Res Lowering Rates
I assume all the stocks have been doing very good lately because of the news. Or the “rumor” that they are going lower. Remember the old saying, buy the rumor and sell the news? So are we going to get a big sell off tomorrow??
And if they don’t lower the rates, that could also start a correction. Are any of you thinking of cashing out your most recent buys while they are still in the money? That’s what I’m thinking.
Hi buygold
Yeah it doesn’t seem normal but then things aren’t normal now driving it. It’s not just the charts it’s the fundamentals that changed. The concession from those with much knowledge that we are heading for a recession at least. Some think it will bring stagflation, one Dowd pointed out that the rising of housing costs was brought on by not just the Fed but Biden open borders and real numbers of 20 million where they were building for them and all the other money they spent on them at tax payer expense, then the delay of bringing down the increased interest rates they also delayed bringing up there will be impending crash in housing prices needed to normalize that catastrophy will be deflationary because housing is included in the numbers. But then we have the other inflationary factors and debt so maybe it will balance out more towards a temporary recession and dollar devaluation than a outright depression. Hopefully But for now that isn’t happening yet.
Buygold
Re diff large caps
Maybe that is a sign institutional money is useing the dip…..
What’s going on here?
https://www.instagram.com/p/DOotCwPEysX/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
1 in 2 Billion chance that he’d be involved in these events.
Dippers are putting up a fight
Pretty impressive. NEM leading the charge.
Seems like there’s a big difference in performance today between the large cap golds and most everything else.
New Poll New Poll
What will the Fed do re: interest rates
Lower one half point (100%, 1 Votes)
Keep them the same (0%, 0 Votes)
Lower one quarter point (0%, 0 Votes)
Lower Three quarters of a point (0%, 0 Votes)
I don’t know (0%, 0 Votes)
Total Voters
Vote Vote!
Poll Results
Should the US government invest in Intel?
No (72%, 23 Votes)
Yes (16%, 5 Votes)
I don’t know (13%, 4 Votes)
Total Voters: 32
Maddog, ipso facto, Buygold
Thanks for your responses. I now have options on seeing the charts!
aufever
On a Phone !!!!!…we bugs should be useing Wall screens 20 ft or more !!!!!
Tks for the info…
Now we have a serious test, they have set up the shares and now are after the metals…can they an old fashioned cascade
in a thin mkt when the buyers may be nervous of the Fed meeting…are the sellers sure the Fed will help them….that sure wouldn’t be a first…after all the Bills from the Hamptons are now coming due….all that vintage champagne, those fancy foreign chefs, that the trophy wife was so , so keen on and just why were there so many midweek afternoon meetings needed to plan every meal, when you were at the office !!!!…..may as well get the idiot bugs to pay for’it all .
Maddog
Your charts are much better for viewing on my android phone now.
There had been the sidebar covering a chunk in the middle of them for a while.
Who aprt from spread tarders would be dumping PM shares here…the only people long are a few institutions, the rest are
die hard bugs and In count Sprott in that camp, as are all the people in any funds….so it has to be spread funds….where do I short those funds…does anyone have any idea….
Shares diverging
Wondering if they’re starting their correction a day early. As much as I’d like them to go up every day, we’re overdue.
Deer79 – thanks. It looks like the market thinks those results are good. My only concern with them is some tax loss selling into year end, but even so, it seems $.80 or so is good support.
Might be time to buckle up for a few days.

