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Good Morning All. It’s good to see a “Howdy silverngold” again in the upper righthand corner.

Posted by silverngold @ 12:21 on December 10, 2025  

Yeah, I hear you. Some saying “that’s great” and some saying “ah Sh!t” lol… but with the subject of the lagging shares being questioned, I still believe it is this fairly new ability for your broker to have the legal ability to “lend” the shares in your margin accounts to the short sellers who then can legally use those same shares  to cancel the gains they should be showing. So instead of rising in leaps and bounds, every share you buy immediately gets the “short hammer” applied to it, and like Maddog’s CDE/Silver chart shows, goes nowhere.

IMO, unless that new ability for the shorts to use your own shares against you (so they are not naked short) is removed, the shorts which IMO is BlackRock etc have control of the markets and you’re playing in a crooked Casino. PHYZ in hand wins but the shares lose… FWIW…SNG

goldielocks @ 11:47 re: Window replacement

Posted by ipso facto @ 12:20 on December 10, 2025  

It’s insane! No wonder their economies aren’t working properly.

Maddog @ 7:52

Posted by Captain Hook @ 12:14 on December 10, 2025  

Yes … and it also shows idiot traders have been top calling the silver rally for several months as well.

There is definitely no froth in this move.

None … except for the idiots.

Chuckle

Ipso

Posted by deer79 @ 11:51 on December 10, 2025  

I “copied” how Martin Armstrong’s web site responded to the idea of the EU potentially liquidating US bonds:

 

Trump needs to consider IMMEDIATELY entering an Executive Order that all EU member state debts MUST be liquidated INSTANTLY!!!!! Any hedge fund that holds EU sovereign debt should be subject to sanctions forthwith. Trump should issue an Executive Order barring any US investment in Ukraine whatsoever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!With the EU seeking to fund war, they will  need to sell debt.

 

The financial war is heating up!

Ipso

Posted by goldielocks @ 11:47 on December 10, 2025  

They’re robbing people blind. They’re replacing a friggin window. Even adding on a structure shouldn’t be anywhere that much. That’s hurting businesses as  well.

I wonder if these people who are doing this are older with mental issues and or green eyed monsters who dont like younger people, resent people who succeed on their own meret who don’t care what the consequences of their scams when they die.

I wonder what age group in UK owns the most property. If it’s like the US or Japan where the majority are owned by babyboomers or older. The result could be a bunch of  not just homes but dilapidated homes by people who refused to get to robbed by these parasites either left abandoned or a over supply of  hard to sell properties on the market  in a few years and lasting for years.  It looks like they want to turn UK into a slum anyways.

 

FAFO

Posted by ipso facto @ 11:24 on December 10, 2025  

Investing.com
@Investingcom
·
Dec 9
*EUROPEAN OFFICIALS EYE ‘NUCLEAR OPTION’ OF DUMPING U.S. TREASURIES IF TRUMP CUTS UKRAINE DEAL WITHOUT ALLIES — WSJ

https://x.com/lexhoogduin/status/1998410660112482652

We don’t want this

Posted by ipso facto @ 11:11 on December 10, 2025  

Wall Street Mav
@WallStreetMav
·
9h
Socialist Europe, who wants this in America?

Replacing a window in Westminster.
Govern me harder.
We are regulating ourselves into oblivion.

short video

Call me a cynic

Posted by deer79 @ 11:06 on December 10, 2025  

but I think the government will NEVER let JPM go under!

That would expose the whole charade, and the pitchforks would be everywhere. JPM knows that they have the full backing of the government behind them, and will continue to sell unbacked paper contracts.

IMHO, it will take some exogenous event for the system to be re-booted ( look how allegedly Donald Rumsfeld claimed that there were trillions of dollars unaccounted for, and then the building that again, allegedly housed that information, was blown up).

What that will be is anyone’s guess.

adogsbody

Posted by Maddog @ 10:20 on December 10, 2025  

re selling…looks like they are taking advantage of the Fed. in that there will be few buyers today, in front of the meeting…so easy to smash it…..

JPM

Posted by adogsbody @ 9:40 on December 10, 2025  

Looks like they are selling more paper this am. Tons of volume.

 

Dog

Is JPMorgan trapped and about to pay the price for being greedy bastards …

Posted by Captain Hook @ 8:58 on December 10, 2025  

The Real Reason JPMorgan Is Being Forced to Deliver Silver | This Is The $60 Trap They Can’t Escape

Discover why JPMorgan is now being forced to deliver physical silver they might not actually have—and why the $60 price level has become an inescapable trap that could blow up the entire paper silver market. For years, banks sold countless paper contracts promising silver delivery while holding only a fraction of the physical metal, and now industrial buyers and investors are demanding the real thing all at once. When the world’s most powerful bank can’t deliver what they promised, it exposes a fraud so massive it threatens to unravel the entire precious metals pricing system.

See how this forced delivery crisis reveals the dangerous gap between paper promises and actual physical silver sitting in vaults. Learn why $60 isn’t just another price target but the breaking point where JPMorgan’s leverage unwinds, triggering a chain reaction of defaults, margin calls, and panic buying that sends prices vertical while physical silver becomes impossible to find. Understanding this trap gives you the advantage to position yourself before the delivery failures become public and the market realizes how few people will actually get their metal. Learn the pattern that defines every major squeeze in market history: when big institutions get caught selling more than they own, the resulting scramble to cover creates explosive price moves that reward those who held physical assets.

Financial Revelations (Youtube.com)

Maddog @ 8:02

Posted by Captain Hook @ 8:52 on December 10, 2025  

Right … and it’s across the board … the greedy bankers, brokers and bureaucrats flipped their lids with respect to suppressing PMs to support their fantasy trades …

GOLD & SILVER MINERS: The World’s Most Undervalued Asset Class!

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Every so often, the market presents an opportunity so glaring, so fundamentally mispriced, that it borders on the absurd. We are living in one of those moments. The entire global gold and silver mining industry; the companies that pull from the earth the foundational monetary and industrial metals of our civilization, has a collective market capitalization of less than $1 trillion.

This is not a rounding error; it is the entire sector. For context, that is less than the market cap of Tesla and a mere fraction of the valuation of Nvidia. This is not just a valuation gap; it is a reality distortion field.

The companies that produce the irreplaceable physical materials that enable our entire modern world are valued as a forgotten relic, while the companies that consume those materials are priced for multi-decade perfection.


This historic mispricing represents the single greatest value opportunity in global markets today. The rerating is inevitable, and it will be violent.


The Anatomy of a Historic Disconnect

How did we get here? How did the producers of the most essential materials on earth become a forgotten backwater of the market? The answer is a perfect storm of financial, ideological, and psychological factors that have conspired to create this generational opportunity.

First, the dot-com bubble and its echo in the Magnificent 7 era created a powerful narrative that the future is purely digital. For two decades, capital has been funneled into companies that deal in bits, not atoms.


The intangible was rewarded, while the tangible was neglected. This created a massive capital starvation in the mining sector, leading to a dearth of new discoveries and a pipeline of future supply that is terrifyingly bare for the demands of tomorrow.


Second, the rise of ESG (Environmental, Social, and Governance) investing acted as a powerful accelerant to this trend. While likely “well-intentioned,” the practical application of ESG mandates has been to create a blacklist of entire sectors, with mining at the very top.

It became career risk for a fund manager to own a mining stock, regardless of its fundamentals. This forced, non-economic selling has pushed valuations down to levels that have no relationship to their underlying profitability.

Third, recency bias has played a powerful role. The brutal bear market in commodities that followed the 2011 peak has scarred an entire generation of investors. They have been conditioned to believe that mining is a perpetually value-destroying enterprise, a black hole for capital.


They have forgotten that commodities move in long, multi-decade cycles, and that the end of a long bear market is precisely the moment of maximum opportunity.


The Valuation Gap in One Chart

Look at the chart above. It is the only piece of evidence you need to understand the scale of this opportunity. The combined market cap of the entire gold and silver mining industries is less than $1 trillion, while Nvidia, a single company, is more than four times larger.

The entire crypto universe, an asset class with zero intrinsic value and no industrial use, is more than twice the size of the entire gold mining sector.

This absurdity extends to every traditional valuation metric:

  • Price-to-Earnings (P/E) Ratio: While the mega-cap tech stocks of the Magnificent 7 trade at forward P/E ratios of 30x, 40x, or even 60x, quality gold and silver miners are trading at a sober ~8-13x forward earnings. You are paying a 60-80% discount for companies that are more profitable and growing faster.
  • Price/Earnings-to-Growth (PEG) Ratio: This is where the story becomes truly compelling. The PEG ratio, which measures the price you are paying for future growth, tells the whole story. For hyper-growth tech stocks, you are paying a significant premium for past and projected growth. For the miners, you are getting explosive, triple-digit earnings growth for pennies on the dollar. The PEG ratios for many senior producers are multiple times more attractive than anything you can find in the tech sector.

This is not a value trap; it is a historical anomaly. The market is pricing the producers of physical, essential, and irreplaceable commodities as if they are going out of business or the commodity itself will crash down, while simultaneously pricing the consumers of those commodities for flawless, perpetual growth.


This disconnect between perception and reality is the source of the opportunity. And as we are about to see, the reality is that the miners are not just cheap; they are already more profitable than the tech darlings the market so adores.


So, Let’s Dig Into The Following:

  1. Profitability is here, right now! excerpt: “While the tech giants are battling slowing growth and margin compression, the miners are entering a golden age of profitability.”
  2. The miners sell exactly what the world cannot live without.
  3. When it comes to silver, the irreplaceable industrial metal, why supply cannot respond to higher prices! excerpt: “The world is producing less new silver today than it was a decade ago, at the precise moment that demand is set to go vertical. Silver production is hostage to the economics of the primary metals. A miner does not open a new lead-zinc mine because the price of silver has doubled; they open it because the price of lead and zinc justify the investment. The silver is just a bonus. This means that even if silver prices triple from here, the supply response will be muted, delayed, and insufficient.”
  4. One sector will consume it all?
  5. The great Central Bank floor.
  6. The cascading demand waterfall and why miners eventually become the only option! excerpt: “This is the endgame. When the retail masses, the pension funds, and the generalist investors are priced out of the physical market, where will they turn? There is only one answer: they will be forced to buy the miners to get exposure to the metals they can no longer acquire.”…

Now if anyone thinks the Share to metal ratio has even got out of bed…tell them to check this

Posted by Maddog @ 8:02 on December 10, 2025  

CDE/vs the metal…..this has a potential to rally over 233 times..

This is a log chart

cde/ag

the non log chart shows the base

and here u get a sense of the base size…which can easily support such a move. !!!!

cde/agnl

This chart shows the Silver share/ag ratio has barely woken up yet

Posted by Maddog @ 7:52 on December 10, 2025  

sil/ag

Buygold

Posted by Maddog @ 6:47 on December 10, 2025  

That second Video misses the upcomming demand from Robotics, which will be even more less elastic…ie higher silver prices will not worry a manufacturer of Robots costing $ 50 K and that demand will take over and exceed many times the Solar mkt….which is pretty well done, as Nut Zero dies.

Fed day

Posted by Buygold @ 5:50 on December 10, 2025  

Touch n’ go for a couple of days. They need to cut and print, but I’m not sure they will.

Rates have crept back up to 4.2% in the last week or so.

They are losing relevance.

deer79, silver bullet, MetalsGuy

Posted by Buygold @ 2:33 on December 10, 2025  

deer79 – yeah, I wondered about that too, weird. It said the video was posted 9 hours earlier when I found it. The second video looked like it was made during real time trading yesterday. He has a $75 target by year end – 2025! In the next couple of weeks! Crazy.

Silver Bullet – I’m with you, let em’ collapse. They’ve been stealing long enough.

MetalsGuy – sorry about that, I’m not sure why.

One thing for sure, these silver producers are way undervalued. I think they’re going to explode higher after the first of the year.

Maya;

Posted by ferrett @ 1:48 on December 10, 2025  

Roofs. Our Colorbond sheets don’t rust where they are cut or drilled, and I’ve often wondered about that. So I looked it up. Thanks for the prompting!

“BlueScope Steel recommend ‘cold cutting’ coated steel products. If this recommendation is followed, these products will ‘self heal’, that is, the zinc in the surrounding coating will protect the newly exposed edge. How does this happen? In the presence of moisture, a reaction occurs between the zinc and the steel which results in galvanic protection of the exposed steel, thereby inhibiting corrosion. The degree of protection depends on the thickness of the coating (the amount of zinc), and this is taken into account when Building Standards are formulated.”

They have standard coatings, and two heavier duty ones for seaside locations. I have been on hundreds of Bluescope roofs and never seen any rust.

Railway. Looking at the sleepers in the photo makes me wonder what condition the bridge timbers are like. Stopping off to admire the view might induce severe anxiety!

Gold Train

Posted by Maya @ 23:32 on December 9, 2025  

Chile Rail Bus
https://www.railpictures.net/photo/890577/

 

Treefrog – Roofs

Posted by Maya @ 23:29 on December 9, 2025  

My roof on the volcano ranch here is also powder coated steel.  Mine is green… fades in to the jungle on satellite photos.  Advice from a contractor.  These steel panels coating is very good. But the panels will rot from the cut edges.  Paint the cut edges of your panels to preserve them longer!

Posted by treefrog @ 21:59 on December 9, 2025  

May be an image of text that says 'TDS Find The Cure'

Buygold

Posted by silver bullet @ 21:16 on December 9, 2025  

From what I read JP Morgan has anywhere from 125,000,000 to 200,000,000 ounces short… They’ve been covering for over a year and supposedly they’ve closed around 20 to 25% of their short position.. So they’re short position at this point at today’s price they’re underwater anywhere between four and 6 billion… but here’s the deal. I don’t really care about the money end of it if the buyers from the Middle East and/or China will stand firm on delivery and allow them to continue to roll the contracts over and deliver a little bit at a time that’s fine, but they’ll never be able to close all those positions because there’s not that much silver out there. So hopefully, as it says, I think in proverbs they get snared in their own trap.. And hopefully in the process of them getting snared, it collapses the Comex and LBMA..

Metals Guy

Posted by goldielocks @ 21:16 on December 9, 2025  

I’m having a hard time trying to post a video.

Guess you can go to the videos and key in the title if all else fails.

Dave Hunter

Posted by goldielocks @ 21:12 on December 9, 2025  
“Be prepared for whats ahead “

https://youtu.be/LuyDzS-Y_o0?si=a52qpcbHt2F6PcBG

SILVER

Posted by treefrog @ 20:15 on December 9, 2025  

$61.03 @ 20:07

quick backtest $60.90 @ 20:16

up&running again, $61.32 @ 20:29

someody wanted fireworks?  it looks like the fuse is lit.

…later, another, more substantial retest.  also passed.

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