Loading ...Trump hasn’t declared war on Iran. He’s simply attacked nuclear facilities. Iran has declared “death to America”. Iran, according to the IAEA, does not have a bomb, but has some pretty enriched uranium. Mrs Ferret does not have a sponge cake, but has flour, eggs, sugar etc and could whip one up in no time. Trump would be in big trouble if Iran smuggled a bomb into America and detonated it. After all, they’ve been promising death to America for decades.
Ferrett
So much for saving money when we have a war welfare system they could probably feed the whole US for a century.
Better gas up. Iran is voting to close the Hormuz.
https://x.com/Megatron_ron/status/1936827512509612129
Well this is interesting. I don’t think they like Trump.
On Sunday, 22 June we woke up to the surreal news that US President ordered an attack on Iran’s nuclear facilities, including Fordow, Natanz and Esfahan. While a few analysts said this was coming imminently (one of them was Lt. Col. Douglas Macgregor), I did not expect that this and said in a recent podcast interview that we might see an attack, but that it could be a fake one, orchestrated for a media blitz while inflicting minimal or no damage to Iran.
I’m not sure whether the attacks were real or fake, but it does appear that the “minimal or no damage” part is, in fact, the case. Former US Marine and UN weapons inspector Scott Ritter tweeted in the immediate aftermath of the attacks that the attack was, ”
“An act of theater. Trump’s big mouth had boxed him into a corner. Iran wouldn’t play his game. So he had to bomb Iran to save face. He bombed two empty facilities that had been previously struck by Israel. And he bounced six bombs off an indestructible facility (Firdos), claiming destruction despite the opposite being the case. That’s it. A “contained” strike. A nothing burger.”
Later in the day, Ritter gave an interview on Judge Andrew Napolitano’s podcast providing more details about what the attacks achieved. Ritter maintains that they had no impact on Iran’s uranium enrichment facilities. While US strikes left a few holes in the ground and damaged one exit and one entrance (out of five or six) to Fordow nuclear program facility, they did not destroy the stockpiles of 60% enriched Uranium which can be weaponized in relatively short order.
Rather than disarming Iran, the attacks might tip Iran across the line to go from being nuclear threshold state to being a nuclear state. The full 32-min. interview is below:
An illegal nothing burger
But what’s worse, it is likely that the attacks Trump ordered were illegal, both under International and American laws. In the interview’s opening, Napolitano said that what the President of the United States did was,
“profoundly unconstitutional, absolutely unlawful, was un impeachable offence and was a war crime. Under our Constitution, only the Congress can declare war, not the President. And Congress can only declare war on a country that poses immediate and grave military threat to the United States of America. President Trump has started a war with Iran which poses no threat…”
Furthermore, Napolitano said that “Under … the War Powers Resolution, the President is required to give notice to Congress and give Congress an opportunity to respond before he attacks a foreign country. … He not only ignored the Constitution, he ignored that law.”
Could this really be political theater?
I believe we’ll know the answer to this question with time. How the Iranians respond will tell a part of the story: if they only direct a token, preannounced attacks on US bases rather than an intense missile barrage against US interests in the region, this might suggest that the whole exchange of blows was about as genuine as a WWF wrestling match.
The reason I still believe this is plausible was the precedent of Trump’s April 2017 missile attack on Syria. The event was a spectacular nothing burger: US forces launched some 50 missiles at Syria. They alerted Russian forces in the region one hour in advance and they shot down about half of them. The other half landed on empty lots across Syria, causing little, if any damage and only a handful of casualties.
Of course, we can’t know whether Trump was guided in his attack on Iran with the same deceptive logic, but Alex Jones posted something interesting on X, suggesting this possibility, including a video where Trump told Fox News that he worked with Iran to stage an attack in 2020 to de-escalate war. Jones lays out the following argument, under the title, “BIG SHOW – BACK DOOR DEAL?”
QUOTE:
Iran’s nuclear facilities were evacuated and equipment moved out days in advance.
US publicly announced and made the upcoming strikes visible. We all saw the bombers moving in place and the news coverage predicting the strike.
The U.S. hence struck an empty Iranian nuclear facility, since the Iranians knew and evacuated it.
US satellites showed the evacuation of the facilities by the Iranians, hence the Americans knew the facility is are empty and not operational.
US and Iran held secret talks in Oman days before, no one knows what was agreed upon.
Trump essentially explained that such a deal was done previously. -> The attached video!
The only logical conclusion is that Iran and USA made a secret deal to end the war. – USA strikes empty facilities – Iran will retaliate but miss (like in the video explained) -> Just watch for the Iran response. Not the words, but the actual physical response.
If it’s not too harsh on casualties, but looks big … I’m right. PS: It’s a geopolitical observation I made. I could be wrong. People need to understand that the governments are not telling us the truth most of the time and that not everything is as it seems. The authorities need consent, so they make shows for you. Don’t get upset. Just note it as a possible scenario. I’m not here to repeat the MSM talking points of any country, here you got the nuanced middle position I feel is right.
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The above reasoning from Alex Jones dovetails the possibility I also find plausible. We won’t know this for some time, but with time, as the dust settles, things will be much clearer.
In the meantime, Iran is continuing to lob missiles and drones at Israel. On Sunday, they launched their 20th wave of attacks on Israel consisting of about 40 missiles which, by all accounts are inflicting very severe damage on Israel and rapidly depleting Israel’s air defence systems and ammunition.
Will Iran close the Hormuz? And so forth.
We know that the first casualty of war is truth.
Trump says it was a stunning and complete success (whilst it was still dark in Iran).
The Russians and Iranians say it was a nothingburger. Russians add it will only help Iran get nukes, from elsewhere if necessary (Pakistan? NK?).
Even before Iran threatened to block Hormuz oil was up 25% in the last month.
Parts of US preparing for sectarian attacks. $$$. War always costs $$$ which America doesn’t have, so more borrowing, higher interest rates.
It must have sounded so easy. Three clinical strikes on key nuclear facilities and the Ayatollahs would see the futility of fighting any more, throw up their hands and say that the will of Allah is just to be nice to everyone from now on. Ritter, however, says that Israel is losing the war. Why gold isn’t $3,750 is anybody’s guess.
Ipso 22:18
Demos are also responsible for this war by allowing Iran to fund terrorist first Obama then Biden. As long as there is a risk of these incompetent anti white anti American anti Christian anti constitutional anti borders enemies within, wackos rigging another election we could not risk having a nuclear treaty with Iran used for power only before Isreal who doesn’t want peace who according to the video sabotaged that, it would be allowed to be broken again by the demos just to spite this country. Just like the treaty Ukraine broke with Russia. So they caused this to happen too.
PM’s up a little, Bitcoin coming back, SM futures down a tad
Oil up above $76. Other than that, looks like sort of normal action.
No fear. It’s all under control until it’s not.
Buygold
Yeah he’s busy saving himself and who knows what entity may be financially rewarding him for doing it. Yet silence even though he’s predictable. Cognitive dissonance extraordinaire.
Yeah Goldie
It seems Oct. 7th and 9-11 have a few things in common.
It’s basically a script written by the same psychopaths.
Who can follow or respect a leader who is willing to sacrifice their own people for their own means?
Do you realize that Netanyahu has been kept in power now for around 17 years simply by creating wars and skirmishes that ensure re-election? He’s the longest serving PM in their brief history. It’s all because of war.
rumor has it…
… trump is building a golf course in iran. he already has the first three holes.
Buygold 16:23
With current events I agree and more important for people to understand who all the instigators are. I don’t look at all of them as enemies, some are even Christian Jews but like sheep believing the false profits to the point they could even turn on each other like Oct 7 allowing the murder of so many and still believe in a false narriatve from psychopaths for their own political and economic gain.
If we or any other industrial nation did even half the things they did to their own people or others the ones responsible would be up on serious charges.
Maddog 15:47
They just can stop can they? Hasn’t even been a week to guess who they want to attack next and provocating another war. We may have something in common like no nukes in Iran but that’s it. Not provocating giving them a reason to want nukes or perpetual wars for their economic benefit and then handing them off to us any more than the people wanting war with Russia using Ukraine were trying to do that fell silent when it was handed back their their laps and their gravy train ended with their boastful threats to sudden silence. They remind me of the covert narcissist. They don’t need all the attention directed at them but quietly watch and learn how to manipulate, blame shift and lie to others and start fights for their own benefit and alienating the targets allies in order to become priority while they work on.the side lines. I have a feeling Isreal that uses those tactics won’t be as quiet and always have a excuse. They will try the entitlement we owe them somehow guilt trips if we don’t go along with them. The only time Biden ever stopped being a useful idiot from foreign globalist influence was refuse to give them more of the bigger bombs telling them they were just going to use them to kill more innocent people because in their view they should all die because although their actions says different they are morally superior and they should be the only ones that have a right to exist. The rest of us all have to go.
Goldie, Maddog
Goldie – a lot to unpack. Christ will come for them when they acknowledge their offense, but they will be driven to the wall no doubt by war and 2 of 3 will die in the process. 1 of 3 died in the holocaust. I suspect what is happening now is part of the lead up to that eventual time. God arranging the chess pieces so to speak.
Maddog – as I mentioned, it will likely start over some land squabble in Syria and escalate over time. Not going to happen tomorrow, but it’s coming.
Buygold
Re Turkey
I don’t see where the provocation/justification comes from …..in the case of Iran, both cases exist in abundance….. Turkey no way…plus as I said no-one takes on Turkey…unless desperate, they are a very tough nut.
When we ruled the World our armed forces had the highest respect for them…..they regularly gave us a beating.
A honest thief
Message is don’t give illegals a reason to come because their not coming for hot dogs and baseball.
Buygold
When it comes to religion or politics it is a topic that can in go on forever. But there’s a question for Christians. If Christians believe that Jesus was indeed here and scriptures said the line of seed will be protected for the coming of Christ. Christ did come and when he comes back he will come from the heavens not through a seed or a woman then what seed are they claiming now? Blasphemy
Buygold
You know the saying if it was a snake it would have bit you.
You know the vs in Mathew to beware of those in sheep’s clothing that will deceive the innocent and naive but inside they are wolves. To guard your self from false profits saying here is the way or there is the way but don’t go. They will deceive many even the very elect. The line of Abraham was meant for coming of Jesus which Jewish now deny has been born yet. That’s their choice to believe it just like their choice to believe their blood line is from Abraham which it isn’t or they can do whatever they want away from the scriptures and others have to follow. Jesus instructed us not to follow.
Who will deceive, who is in sheep’s clothing. What elect be political or religious have they decevied. Some times it can be as close as the nose on your face and not see it. Hidden in plain sight. If you know the scriptures and the word would you follow a person telling you they are the word and turn against the scriptures? The only profit predicted to come in the future besides Jesus who is the word John 1,1 were warnings of false profits. .. Blasphemy
Romans 16:18
New International Version
18 For such people are not serving our Lord Christ, but their own appetites. By smooth talk and flattery they deceive the minds of naive people.
Bitcoin taking it on the chin
Will the world rush to pm’s instead?
The BEST and most appropriate 23 minute sermon I’ve ever heard about where we are in the End Times.
Please, for the sake of your eternal soul, watch and then pass this one on to all you know. Thanks from sng!
Maddog
They can with us behind them. Netanyahu just forced a supposed anti war POTUS into a war with Iran that they couldn’t win long term without the US help. Iran has 90 million people, if it were to turn into a ground war, they wouldn’t be able to sustain it and they would use nukes.
What makes you think Turkey will be any different? This is about regional dominance and energy.
Ultimately this will be the Magog (Turkey) war of Ezekiel 38
If they do this it means a much bigger war
Iran’s parliament has reportedly approved the closing of the key strait of Hormuz shipping lane.
Reuters reported Iran’s supreme national security council will make the final decision on the move, which could hamstring global trade by shutting the narrow passage between Iran and Oman.
The decision to close the strait, through which about 20% of global oil and gas demand flows, is not yet final.
However according to Reuters, lawmaker and Revolutionary Guards Commander Esmail Kosari told the Young Journalist Club on Sunday that doing so is on the agenda and “will be done whenever necessary.”
The UK Maritime Trade Operations (UKMTO) said it was assessing the threat to US commercial shipping in the Red Sea and Gulf of Aden, near Iran, as “high”.
https://therightscoop.com/breaking-iran-votes-to-close-the-strait-of-hormuz/
Here is the report elsewhere
buygold
Re Turkey
No way can Israel take on Turkey….the Turks are well armed and fearsome fighters……it would be on hell of a fight…….