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From a ZH thread..PM is a dead market at this time. I will look again at silver at ~ $12, and gold ~$1050.

Posted by Richard640 @ 15:44 on July 6, 2015  

Hongcha

NO. We are at all-in costs but that will be busted to mine the rich vein of stop losses and to set up bankruptcies so the cartels can swoop in and buy assets for pennies on the dollar. And the mines will not stop mining if the spot stays below costs. The mines will need the cash flow and will operate at a loss rather than shutter operations – setting up no shortage of inventory – which a lot of PM bulls are counting on to self-regulate the spot price.

PM is a dead market at this time. I will look again at silver at ~ $12, and gold ~$1050.

Ipso-thanks for the Kunstler-another masterpiece! I love this part=

Posted by Richard640 @ 14:50 on July 6, 2015  

 

The Greeks insist on living the 20th century deluxe industrial age lifestyle, complete with 24/7 electricity, cheap groceries, cushy office jobs, early retirement, and plenty of walking-around money. They’ll be lucky if they land back in the 1800s, comfort-wise.

What happens in the case of untenable complexity is that it tends to unravel fast and furiously. That’s exactly why avalanches and earthquakes happen all at once, not stretched out over a six week period. The global financial scene not so different. It’s just another matrix of linked mutually-supporting relationships that can implode if a few members weaken.

One question worth reflecting on is whether the implosion is actually well underway on-the-ground in real economies, with just the scrim of illusion to make the surface appear intact. That surely seems to be the case in the USA, where the so-called economy has already avalanched into a rubble heap of part-time scut jobs, defaulted college loans, underwater mortgages, and groaning pension funds — with an overlay of pointless and endless motoring.

Over in Euroland, the Greek “no” also implies that every other sovereign nation wallowing in deep financial shit will demand a haircut (and a disinfectant shower). Italy, Spain, Portugal, Ireland, and even France cannot possibly meet their debt obligations. Their citizens are being taunted with currency controls, too, and they have every bit as much potential to go ape-y as the Greeks. Notice you haven’t heard much from their leaders and financial ministers in recent weeks. They are all standing on the sidelines watching the Greeks go through the wringer — but you can be sure they are all making plans of their own.

The failure of the European experiment will be extremely demoralizing to the hopeful citizens of that continent, who emerged from the bloodbath of the early 20th century to become the world’s premier peaceful tourist theme park. I don’t know that they necessarily have to go back to fighting each other on battlefields with things that blow up and destroy human flesh, but they surely have to decentralize and re-fashion some kind of simpler, local way-of-life if they expect to remain civilized.

It’ll happen everywhere. The Japanese are next, of course, and they may be the most fortunate, since they retain more than a few shreds of memory for exactly that mode of life: the Tokugawa shogunate (the Edo period, 1600 – 1853), a manner of high pre-industrial economy and culture that might have persisted indefinitely had not Commodore Perry come knocking on their door, so to speak, in his “black ships.”

Ukraine is about halfway back to being medieval with excellent potential to overshoot even that. The Euroland PIIG(F) nations don’t have the energy resources to extend Modernity, even if the banking system wasn’t terminally ill, and then on top of that they have the ethno-demographic quandary of creeping Muslimization — plus the additional flotillas of desperate boat people arriving daily.

America, count your blessings. Tattoos, obesity, drug use, and shiftlessness are all basically behavioral choices. You don’t need a finance minister or a central banker to overcome those problems.

Former US Mint Director Clueless On Gold In Fort Knox

Posted by drb2 @ 14:41 on July 6, 2015  
after giving this a quick scan, it is obvious that TPTB can pretty much do whatever they want. there is no followup, no accountablity.   not just concerning Fort Knox ….. in any area.
 
 
Former US Mint Director Clueless On Gold In Fort Knox

http://www.silverdoctors.com/former-us-mint-director-clueless-on-gold-in-fort-knox/

Platinum down $21—crude down $4.45—-OOGAH!

Posted by Richard640 @ 14:38 on July 6, 2015  

WANKA @ 12:40…..Patriotism

Posted by silverngold @ 13:24 on July 6, 2015  

Great words…..so how can America continue to support and condone a president who is making, or has made, a patriot into a domestic terrorist because he wishes to protect and defend the Constitution???????? Isn’t it way past time to clean house and take America back??????????

Greece …

Posted by frr @ 12:35 on July 6, 2015  

Is lost to the West!

The only way to stop the bleeding is to cut it off
and cauterize the wound, or not.

If you let it degenerate to germinate to gangrene –
the outcome is not Greece for itself – IT will be
the IMF and consorts will try to cull the Greek
“misfits” once and for all (who Needs a few Million
paupers?), their government tries to get a life?
A new life, costing their life! Ha their hero, the
former Minister of finance has already seen the light
of reality and “was asked”to resign! Huh just one
Little “s” between reign and ist Counterpart resign!

Poor guys; As you can’t still stand up to the
criminal Forces of the ……. put in your own
favourite monstrosity and try to tell yourself
it’s a bad dream … come true – and you, who
have seen it coming construe an untrue history
of undue FED and GOV to screw everything day
and night … until their might is only,though
together with the “Troika” forfeit.

As it seems the Greek financial Troubles are
in limbo, or akimbo.
Not knowing if defaulting officially or just
for the fraudulent keepers of a Western off(ic)al
monetary System based on fraud. Better, based on
debt only!Nowadays on derivatives in notional
values up to quadtrillions with absolutely no
counterparties beneath our Milky Way.

Let’s hope, we may be soon able to
to maroon these political, monetary and other
eco criminal goons to the moon,
and even farther.

rip
frr

Kunstler … Mr. Pollyanna :-)

Posted by ipso facto @ 10:17 on July 6, 2015  

Welcome to Blackswansville

W hile the folks clogging the US tattoo parlors may not have noticed, things are beginning to look a little World War one-ish out there. Except the current blossoming world conflict is being fought not with massed troops and tanks but with interest rates and repayment schedules. Germany now dawdles in reply to the gauntlet slammed down Sunday in the Greek referendum (hell) “no” vote. Germany’s immediate strategy, it appears, is to apply some good old fashioned Teutonic todesfurcht — let the Greeks simmer in their own juices for a few days while depositors suck the dwindling cash reserves from the banks and the grocery store shelves empty out. Then what?

Nobody knows. And anything can happen.

One thing we ought to know: both sides in the current skirmish are fighting reality. The Germans foolishly insist that the Greek’s meet their debt obligations. The German’s are just pissing into the wind on that one, a hazardous business for a nation of beer drinkers. The Greeks insist on living the 20th century deluxe industrial age lifestyle, complete with 24/7 electricity, cheap groceries, cushy office jobs, early retirement, and plenty of walking-around money. They’ll be lucky if they land back in the 1800s, comfort-wise.

more http://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/welcome-to-blackswansville/

Iran brings 13 tons of gold back home after latest round of nuclear talks

Posted by ipso facto @ 10:06 on July 6, 2015  

Iran has successfully repatriated this week 13 tons of gold as part of a package of sanctions relief provided by the U.S. and other five global powers, the head of the country’s central bank (CBI) announced.

The bullion was transferred from South Africa, which had been holding onto the assets due to sanctions meant to pressure Tehran to rein in its nuclear program.

The head of Iran’s central bank, Valiollah Seif, noted the gold had not been transferred to Tehran before “because of illogical problems created under the pretext of sanctions,” Tasnim News Agency reports.

more http://www.mining.com/iran-brings-13-tons-of-gold-back-home-after-latest-round-of-nuclear-talks/

Iamgold’s troublesome mine

Posted by ipso facto @ 9:58 on July 6, 2015  

Unstable ground conditions are proving to be a major hindrance for Iamgold at the Westwood gold mine, in the Doyon-Bousquet – LaRonde mining camp in Quebec.

Seismic issues – mostly mining-related – at underground mines in the region are nothing new and can require extensive monitoring and management.

But, after a couple sizeable rock bursts, Iamgold is now having to peddle back on projections and reconsider how much gold it can produce at the mine.

Back in January four Iamgold workers were stuck, briefly, underground after a rock fall blocked access. Then, in a similar incident in May, nine workers were again blocked by a rock fall.

The latest incident forced a hefty production cut with guidance falling from 110,000-130,000 ounces gold (oz) to 60,000 to 75,000oz in 2015 at Westwood. Iamgold reported the revised outlook for 2015 last week, noting mining could not go ahead on one level, and that the extent of the issue was more serious than management previously thought.

more http://www.mineweb.com/news/iamgolds-troublesome-mine/

The drop in gold is due to further central bank intervention, this time by the BIS’ FX and gold trading desk under the auspices of Benoit Gilson.

Posted by Richard640 @ 9:40 on July 6, 2015  

[I dunno how Zero Hedge-Durden-knows this but that’s what he wrote]

Gold failed to hold onto early gains and trended lower overnight, before consolidating in negative territory in early European trade, amid the ongoing concerns over growth prospects in China. The drop in gold is due to further central bank intervention, this time by the BIS’ FX and gold trading desk under the auspices of Benoit Gilson. At the same time, the risk averse sentiment weighed on the energy complex, with WTI and Brent Crude futures trading lower.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-07-06/tumbling-futures-rebound-after-varoufakis-resignation-most-china-stocks-drop-despite

 

Sandspring Announces Proposed Acquisition of PNO Resources Ltd

Posted by ipso facto @ 9:17 on July 6, 2015  

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/sandspring-announces-proposed-acquisition-pno-130000998.html

drb2 @ 9:06

Posted by ipso facto @ 9:15 on July 6, 2015  

Did you see where the Chinese are going to allow margin debt in the stock market to be backed with real estate? So … one leveraged investment is going to be supporting another leveraged investment. That can’t end well!

Good morning Oasis

Posted by ipso facto @ 9:12 on July 6, 2015  

Caledonia Mining Corporation: Q2 2015 Production Update

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/caledonia-mining-corporation-q2-2015-060000887.html

Canarc to Acquire Oro Silver and its El Compas Gold-Silver Mining Project in Zacatecas, Mexico from Marlin Gold

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/canarc-acquire-oro-silver-el-110000930.html

IAMGOLD clarifies impact of mining code revisions in Burkina Faso

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/iamgold-clarifies-impact-mining-code-110000423.html

Argonaut Gold Provides Update on San Agustin Project; Potential 50% Resource Increase

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/argonaut-gold-provides-san-agustin-113000305.html

Pershing Gold Reports Upgrade and 34% Increase in Measured and Indicated Resource at Relief Canyon

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/pershing-gold-reports-upgrade-34-121500688.html

China Stocks Drop Despite Massive Intervention

Posted by drb2 @ 9:06 on July 6, 2015  
Over the weekend the PBOC said would actively support the market.   i gave this article a quick scan to see how the Chinese market reacted to the announcement
What I don’t get is how it could actually drop at all.     probably the PBOC is not as experienced as the Fed in the market management game…or maybe their algos aren’t very good?

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-07-06/tumbling-futures-rebound-after-varoufakis-resignation-most-china-stocks-drop-despite

So true

Posted by commish @ 8:41 on July 6, 2015  

Common-sense-is-not-a-gift

I guess it could be worse

Posted by Buygold @ 8:08 on July 6, 2015  

Oil is down 4.5%, Platinum and Palladium down 2% each.

Is losing less actually winning?

toon1k

Greeks voted No…Gold slides..this is July 6, 2015 in the lands of “They still run the Place”

Posted by Walker @ 7:34 on July 6, 2015  

Never despair….fundamentally they are few and they are human. Unfortunately, so very few understand the system. This unnatural system absolutely cannot continue. The physical earth will not allow them.
Hence there will be a time of reset. The truth….it is all an illusion. So this coming week enjoy your particular surroundings. Housing in London New York, Toronto, Boston……complete ..well you all understand ….
Regarding HARRP..yes it is real but does it have the capabilities to change weather?…I think not. Who here has read Dr. Hapgood theories….I am more in tune with this pathway of reality. I could be wrong , smile. My point, the weather and sea levels are definitely changing…make no mistake there.
Today…the ocean temperatures on the north east coast are relatively very cold for this time of year..
a common day inland 85f on the coast 50f hum I have spend a life …no need to continue that one
Greece is still an illusion….until they, the people, look at their past leadership and hold them accountable…this will never “fly”. They frankly deserve nothing, in my view. So very complex….
Gold and silver…what we all are here to understand?…..there you have it ..it is real, has been real, and will continue to be real…did I mention platinum?…smile.
Just a reality check …..massive buildings do not free fall…Never!!! by fire..just remind yourself…and smell the roses…there you have it! We all KNOW this is very close to complete insanity….open borders and …endless wars, smile we are all on camera….GRIN>
from frostbite this morning.

Coffee with “We Losers”

Posted by winedoc @ 6:02 on July 6, 2015  

Frustrating

Elevation change for Chilkoot Pass

images

Where we are in  this journey is difficult to tell …….. at the Beginning or  the End ?

Has the Gold “had” us ??

We shall see

Morning Friends

Winedoc

 

Gold Train

Posted by Maya @ 3:25 on July 6, 2015  

folder_xing1

Sometimes it takes a big “Challenger” to pull us
over the mountains with a heavy gold train.
http://railpictures.net/photo/536109

 

Gettin all giddy on the Hang Seng down 1K…. been champin at the bit for a little Hang Fire..

Posted by macroman3 @ 2:35 on July 6, 2015  

drb2 @ 22:11….I certainly agree!!

Posted by silverngold @ 22:57 on July 5, 2015  

Anyone who would intentionally try to discredit the Fed should be reported to the Thought Police!!

Feds ‘lose’ audits for Fort Knox Gold

Posted by drb2 @ 22:11 on July 5, 2015  

this sort of thing happens all the time.      just ask Hillary (emails)

besides this was on RTv – prejudiced, lying bastards trying to discredit the Fed

 

Feds ‘lose’ audits for Fort Knox Gold

Frostbite

Posted by Buygold @ 21:09 on July 5, 2015  

Indeed it should have soared, but your point is proven time and again…

24 hr gold chart

we lose

Posted by Walker @ 20:39 on July 5, 2015  

BUYGOLD.
The real key was the illusion. The no vote. If you think gold should have soared you were right…and proven wrong. My real point…we are all deep down their hole. They won past programmed elections, why now????..walk and pay attention. Is Greece the fish in the bowl..we all know Greece, Italy and numerous nations can never pay back the principals loans..NEVER..The illusion of the digit..the power of all
Why ..this point and now???..It is open knowledge it is a was a  5% we live well world ( It always was for the sheep) …you others are past historical feed !!..What is the problem ?kings, queens ,church and send them off to the colonies….
My opinion the greatest failed nations were Australia and Canada..they never tasted freedom. They voted yes ..over all their years ..sad.Their resources were and

note the powers to be just were here three setnces gone

 
We were sold out in December 23, 1913..and the rest is an illusion of ” we left them and they never left us ” look in to the royal familoes of Europe… look in a name Leopold…what a black hole you will find..from Victoria to Belgium Congo to millions of killed .to the term royal..full circle Canada. Thirty years of reading..
we never left them..

I wish to share more but. i feel it would be worth less..

I will marvel at the script..

A piece of cake! Europe will be fine-Int rates aren’t going up-The U.S. will be stronger than ever….

Posted by Richard640 @ 20:26 on July 5, 2015  

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/5-unexpected-investment-predictions-for-the-second-half-of-2015-2015-07-02

the ongoing debt crisis in Greece seems to be a never-ending source of hysterics.  [ Zero Hedge!!-]

History shows that pundits who make bold, aggressive calls are frequently proven dead wrong, but there are a few scenarios that I think are highly likely in the second half of 2015. And that could create windfall profits for investors on the right side of the trade.

So at the risk of creating yet another public record of my inaccuracies, here are five predictions of what I expect to transpire from now until the end of December.

Europe will be fine, with or without Greece

We’ll start here, because the ongoing debt crisis in Greece seems to be a never-ending source of hysterics.

In a nutshell: Just because people who haven’t been paying attention to the eurozone for five years are freaking out doesn’t mean you have to.

For the record, a “Grexit” is not a foregone conclusion — heck, the people haven’t even voted on bailout terms yet, and even when they do the nation is prepared to block expulsion from the eurozone via court action. But even if Greece eventually returns to the drachma, the contagion risks we’ve heard so much of lately should be taken with a grain of salt.

Politicians have been preparing for this — and more importantly, so have investors.

After all, it was over four years ago that Fortune ran an article with the headline, “End of the line: What a Greek default means,” with a subhead warning: “Its impact on European banks could trigger a liquidity crisis felt around the globe.”

If you are just hearing about Greece’s debt problems and default risk for the first time, then you simply haven’t been paying attention.

Besides, even if some yutzes are unprepared, Greece’s economy isn’t even in the top 40, according to IMF data, making it smaller than the Philippines or Chile. Heck, Argentina’s economy is roughly twice the size of Greece’s, and its debt default didn’t cause the end of Western civilization.

I won’t pretend this will be easy, particularly for frustrated Greek people who have suffered through a steady economic decline since 2008.

But as financial pundit extraordinaire Jeff Macke put it on Twitter: “The problem with betting on the end of the world is there’s no where to collect if you’re right.”

There may be plenty of volatility in the days ahead, but I still will be making my regular investment in the Vanguard Total International Stock ETF VXUS, +0.24% as I do every month.

Europe has survived worse than this, and it will survive this too. Long-term investors should not abandon exposure to the region, particularly in 401(k) or IRA accounts where they will be “averaging in” across the coming months and years.

U.S. growth will be even stronger

The year got off to a bumpy start after a GDP contraction in the first quarter. As a result, the bears came out in full force with their recession calls.

But if the first half was characterized by disappointment, the second half of 2015 will be marked by acceleration as the U.S. economy gets its groove back.

For starters, some of the details from those early months hint at delayed economic activity — not lost activity. Consider the slow inventory build in the first quarter as a perfect example. We’ve seen this movie before, including an initial 2.9% rate of decline a year earlier — the most in five years — that sparked similar doomsday calls. But that was eventually revised to just a 2.1% decline and was followed by a brisk 4.6% pace in the second quarter.

But don’t just take my word for it. Goldman Sachs recently revised its full-year GDP target higher and is expecting a 3% pace of growth in the second half. Also, Merrill Lynch just revised up its 2015 forecast to 2.9% from 2.3% growth. And while the World Bank wasn’t quite so hot, recently revising down its forecast of U.S. growth, the agency still is plotting a 2.7% growth rate for 2015 even after a weak start to the year.

Just consider the jobs numbers as proof of how durable the recovery is. More than 2.95 million jobs were created last year, making 2014 the best jobs year since 1999. And while some folks were mighty scared after a slow start to 2015, May’s jobs report blew the doors off with 280,000 jobs created and increased participation and wages.

In short, expect a powerful finish to the year despite a slow start to 2015. The story of this frustratingly slow recovery from the financial crisis has been one of fits and starts, but it is indeed a story of recovery. I expect the data to continue to point higher in the second half of the year and reinforce a narrative of growth, not one of a slowdown.

Interest rates aren’t going anywhere

Back in April, I said the 10-year Treasury wouldn’t top 2.5%, and I guess, technically, I was proven wrong on June 10 when it hit exactly that mark.

But I remain convinced that low rates are here to stay, and that any brief pop to 2.5% or slightly higher won’t last long.

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