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From a poster on Wollies site-Don is always bullish on gold

Posted by Richard640 @ 14:16 on July 15, 2015  

Bullish percent miners under 7 ($bpgdm), COT structure bullish and probably more so with the last few days. Precious metals gonna rock soon.

 

Here’s hope and change a little different from that of Obama.

Posted by silverngold @ 14:09 on July 15, 2015  

Worth the 12 minutes to hear the guy out IMO…..and FWIW

https://youtu.be/VL_m1pNDCRg

Beware of Communists bearing Gifts

Posted by Ororeef @ 13:53 on July 15, 2015  

gifts for Pope

Those Tax Avoiding Greeks

Posted by Ororeef @ 13:26 on July 15, 2015  

Christine La Garde must have been taking lessons from them..She pays NO INCOME TAX on her $500,000 salary at the IMF ….Legally of coarse…..Some how Gubberment employees Agency employees get raises in recessions and even in depressions yet Private sector employees get NADA .

Those that live off the private sector like Parasites or fleas on a dog live better than the dog and only when the DOG dies they move on to the NEXT victum ..

Now with 65 % public employees in Greece …who is left to TAX ? Public employees PAY NO TAX,its not possible !    Where do they get the money from to pay taxes ? Its given to them also isn’t it ? HOW is that a TAX ?    …TAX the RICH ?   Who are they ?Why they are the Public Employees and if you tax them dont you have to give them the money to pay with ?

Who needs Greece to accomodate the EU(ro)?

Posted by frr @ 13:06 on July 15, 2015  

Noone!
The Euro 19 only need to grab the Greek real assets, which they haven’t yet. Some ports, some Islands, some shippers and some native olive oil and, of course a vibrant tourism.

This real and Horror Show is just the deluge the global monetary reformists are steering us all into
– ARMAGEDDON! Forget about what the FOMC Yellin is uttering today, as Dragi the ECB-icicle , nor the immaculate Christine La Garde that Greece will be saved from “Grexit”, while the Troika will be stealing the rest of real Greek assets, on top of it will also receive interest on Greek bonds, never paid for in reality and will devour any signs of life as Long as the West is smitten by snake oil sellers, the former algorythm wizards of debauchery – and this includes THE and a few more governments.

In the end it will be seen as a huge waste of Genius and ingenuity … if we’ll get there …frr

drb2 @ 12:14 RE: Edelson No Inflation

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 12:58 on July 15, 2015  

re part: “Unbelievable what they are doing to PMs!”

Comment:
I’ve noticed, since 1975, the PRIMARY OBJECTIVE of Gov’t, (I.E. multi national business and banking) wants cheaper materials and labor all the time. They do it thru manipulated futures markets, by lowering the dollar and other methods, to drive prices artificially HIGHER,

just to fool PRODUCERS into more investment in capacity and over production, which leads to excess supply inventory and falling prices, lasting until the excess gets digested. By more consumption from the lower prices, and less production from lower prices. When THAT gets digested, the shortage comes, and rotates prices higher. Wash rinse repeat.

The big problem they have now is two fold.

#1 The adjusted REAL wages in the private tax paying sector are about 25-50% artificially lower (including tax receipts) than the 1945 to 1975 era.

#2 The adjusted real wages in the tax ABSORBING, tax supported sectors, civil service and gov’t vendor sectors have SURPASSED inflation of the 1945-1975 era. Even public utility employees are doing great.

There are way way too many jobs and businesses supported by gov’t that gets funds from tax PAYERS.

Accountants, real estate, real estate and medical jobs fall into tax PAYER support.

The “catch 22” thing is now hitting them.

Baltic Dry

Posted by drb2 @ 12:36 on July 15, 2015  

I don’t know if this is a lagging…or leading indicator.  but it seems like there is some correlation happening

 

RE: Edelson No Inflation

Posted by drb2 @ 12:14 on July 15, 2015  

No Inflation – Huh?

I just received a notice from my local utility that our rates are going to increase 25-30% over the next four years. Golf course fees went up 50% in January. I’d love to see a chart of gov’t employees; Corporate CEOs; Pro athletes salaries. Has Edelson gone to the doctor lately? Does he pay for his own Medical insurance? I could go on.

 

On another subject. Unbelievable what they are doing to PMs !

Here’s a mental exercise I just went through to help me keep my sanity.

I asked myself what would happen if I had a job and asked my employer to pay me in Au or Ag ounces?

Would I do it? Or would I take the cash?

Could the employer afford to do it? What would happen if the idea spread?

How about just a few of the Mining CEOs taking 90% of their outrageous salaries in ounces?   That should be an industry requirement ! That one move alone would probably break the CRIMEX.

There’s a reason he earned the name zero edge

Posted by eeos @ 12:09 on July 15, 2015  

Because he gets you nowhere fast. He can post all kinds of drivel, but this is certainly far from financial advice. Fun to read but just remember it’s all fiction

No inflation? Edelson must have missed today’s data

Posted by Buygold @ 11:34 on July 15, 2015  

Producer Prices Rise Again Driven By Surge In Energy Costs

If low oil pries are great for America “unequivocally,” then the continued surge in Energy costs (+2.4% MoM in June) must be [fill in the blank]? PPI Final Demand rose 0.4% MoM – near the fatest pace in 3 years (beating expectations of a 0.2% rise) but fell 0.7% YoY. The huge gap between core and headline PPI continues to grow with PPI Ex Food and Energy rising 0.8% YoY, its first acceleration in 2015.

 

Course inflation is bad for pm’s…

Another joy filled day in pm land

Posted by Buygold @ 11:27 on July 15, 2015  

Had to know when ZH printed that article last night we’d get hit, as they readily admit.

‘Paper’ Gold ETF Tumbles To 5-Year Lows

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Last night we asked “is the paper gold selling over?” Judging by today’s plunge in GLD – the biggest Gold ETF – to 5 year lows, it has a way to go…

 

Larry Edelson: No Amount of Money Printing Will Spark Inflation …

Posted by silverngold @ 11:12 on July 15, 2015  

Worth the time to read and consider.

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Giggle! Tee Hee! Guffaw!******Black Swan’ Taleb Warns “Calm Before The Storm”

Posted by Richard640 @ 11:07 on July 15, 2015  

– Is the apparent calm of the West a signal of latent instability?

– Increasing symptoms of instability in West as proposed by Nassim Taleb
-Wider public and mainstream press believe “experts” have everything under control

– Black Swan approaches and we may be experiencing “the calm before the storm”

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Western countries are increasingly displaying symptoms of instability as described by Nassim Taleb, the author of the The Black Swan, ever since the publication of an essay written with Gregory Treverton entitled “The Calm Before the Storm.”

The piece was published in the January/February edition of Foreign Affairs – the official magazine of the Council on Foreign Relations.

In their essay, Taleb and Treverton highlight five characteristics that could help identify states that – while appearing stable on the surface – may actually be quite fragile.

“Fragility”, they write, “is aversion to disorder”. Under this criterion they view Italy as a stable state.

The five characteristics they view as major factors in instability are:

– centralised decision making,

– lack of economic diversity

– high levels of debt and leverage

– absence of political variability

– lack of track record in surviving shocks

“Italy, paradoxically, shows no signs of fragility. It is effectively decentralized and has bounced back from perennial political crises. It also experiences a great deal of harmless political variability, cycling through 14 prime ministerial terms in the past 25 years.”

With regards to centralised decision making the article points to the autocratic Arab states which while appearing strong on the surface quickly succumbed to the “Arab Spring” uprisings before degenerating into chaos – albeit compounded by external influences.

“Although centralization reduces deviations from the norm, making things appear to run more smoothly, it magnifies the consequences of those deviations that do occur. It concentrates turmoil in fewer but more severe episodes, which are disproportionately more harmful than cumulative small variations.

In other words, centralization decreases local risks, such as provincial barons pocketing public funds, at the price of increasing systemic risks, such as disastrous national-level reforms.”

“On the other hand, Switzerland – often viewed as a model of stability -is composed of multiple smaller semi-autonomous states.”

Other states they look at are Middle Eastern, African and China.

Recent events would suggest that EU is increasingly centralising authority and decision making in Brussels. Indeed, Greek Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras recently stated that Greece’s creditors had made it clear that bailed-out countries had no right to self determination.

In terms of economic diversity, the authors warn of the risks associated with over-reliance on a particular sector such as tourism and on a single commodity or industry. The cite Botswana’s over-reliance on the diamond trade and Japan’s car manufacturing sector.

Over-reliance on any sector has obvious implications. “Specialization makes a state more vulnerable in the face of random events.”

An African country that is completely reliant on cocoa production, for example, is vulnerable to the predations of large confectionary corporations who can demand unreasonably low prices leading to hardship, poverty and civil unrest.

The U.S. is slightly vulnerable in this regard having relocated the bulk of its manufacturing sector overseas in recent years although it remains well diversified.

The entire western world is incredibly vulnerable to the third factor – over-indebtedness – which is described as “the single most critical source of fragility.”

Since the 2008 crisis – caused by excessive debt – global debt has increased by one third. In May the McKinsey Institute reported that total global debt was now around $199 trillion – $27,204 for every person alive today.

The U.S. is particularly vulnerable in this regard. It’s total Federal debt is over $18 trillion while its GDP is estimated to be $17.71 trillion. At the same time its unfunded liabilities are estimated to be a more than a staggering $100 trillion – a sure source of instability as these payments come due.

According to the authors, political variability contributes to stability “by responding to pressures in the body politic”. While western leaders like to promote the notion of political pluralism it is clear from the consistently low levels of participation of voters at election time that the people who live with the consequences of their decisions that the public do not generally see credible alternatives.

It becomes increasingly apparent that decisions are made by lobby groups and vested interests only to be rubber stamped by governments of varying persuasions.

How the fifth characteristic pertains to the western world is more difficult to identify.

What constitutes a major shock and what constitutes a survival of a shock? Can the Western world be said to have experienced a major shock in the post war period prior to the 2008 crisis? Can they be said to have survived that shock when in reality they appear to be on life-support? It is true that the powers that be have done a remarkable job at averting the day of reckoning but does that constitute a track record of surviving shocks?

The authors believe that exposure to any one of these factors is a symptom of instability. They add that exposure to multiple factors presents an exponential increase in risk.

The wider public and the press seem unjustifiably complacent at this time. It seems likely that the seemingly unending “recovery” is simply the calm before the storm.

 

Gold Train

Posted by Maya @ 9:42 on July 15, 2015  

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Lumpy tracks, rock & roll through the city. Let’s get
out of town… on the Gold Train.
http://railpictures.net/photo/538351

 

Auandag @ 16:53 on July 14, 2015

Posted by Ororeef @ 9:36 on July 15, 2015  

Clearly the Judge has a Communist attitude,anyone that dosent see the benefits of communism must be Psychologically astray and in need of counsellings .Psychological bullshit just dosen’t cut it.When the Russians did it they put their enemies in Psyco Wards. Thats a dead giveaway he’s a communist .  Judge Berman is an arrogant Physiological misfit with a Socialized Superior God like affliction .D’Souza is Genius and the Judge cant stand it because it effects his God like attitude and and makes him look like the idiot he really is .D’Souza is so smart and by comparison the “Judge” is clearly inferior ..something his Psyche cant stand so he acts like Caligula  to show how powerful he is so his ego can make up for his stupidity.The Judge is a criminal misfit.!

WTF

Posted by commish @ 8:43 on July 15, 2015  

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From a ZH thread

Posted by Richard640 @ 8:28 on July 15, 2015  

mojojojo

When you add televised propaganda, obedience and thought training in school, socially engineered manipulation (psychological operations), and various institutions that I needn’t name, working to ‘change’ society into their image. It is little wonder that society is despondent, apathetic, docile, and indifferent. Faced with cognitive dissonance, it is quite common to brush off information that contradicts our manufactured narrative we think is our own. Our irrational and simple minds are vulnerable to the fallacious rhetoric of our demagogues. Ideologues like Krugman et al are given special status in the media.

We are easy to manipulate. The intelligentsia need to take their balls in hand, throw off their fear of ostracism, character assassination, employment termination, throw off their partisan shackles, and get in the fight. These are the people that obviously need to be silenced, intimidated, and shackled (D’Souza). They can offer alternatives that threaten the manufactured narrative. The dumb majority are suggestible and easily managed. The authoritarians and other well meaning people are consenting to forced vaccinations. The propagandized environmentalists are almost as thoughtless. It’s about collectivism. We are marching toward a global totalitarian dictatorship, where faceless supranational bureaucrats manage their respective populations as they see fit. Sounds great. Sign me up.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-07-15/chinese-stock-plunge-resumes-1200-stocks-halted-limit-down-yellen-greek-elections-de

 

Morning Islandgold

Posted by Buygold @ 8:05 on July 15, 2015  

I red that article too. Very thorough analysis.

They used the term “in free markets” several times, which is probably the only thing that might prevent their analysis from coming to fruition.

We can hope I guess.

Coffee’s on

Posted by MadMike @ 7:27 on July 15, 2015  

baked-goods

Thankyou, Floridagold.

HUGE COVER-UP OF GAY LEADER’S EXPLOITS-It would be all over the news if it was a priest

Posted by Auandag @ 0:59 on July 15, 2015  

Last November, Terrence Bean was taken into custody in Portland, Oregon following an indictment by a jury that charged him with multiple sex crimes against minors. Now additional child sexual abuse charges have been made against him. Why isn’t the media covering this? Because he’s a prominent gay leader, that’s why.

Bean is the co-founder of the Human Rights Campaign (HRC), the most influential gay group in the nation; he is also a big donor to President Obama and even flew on Air Force One with him. The Associated Press (AP) chose not to cover the latest allegations, but not because it has no interest in new charges against alleged sex offenders: it does if the accused is a priest.

HUGE COVER-UP OF GAY LEADER’S EXPLOITS

Did China Hack itself in the FOOT?

Posted by Ororeef @ 0:48 on July 15, 2015  

(It may have lost 1 trillion  in Potential Stock BUYS ,if it obtained Reserve currency statis ! ,or Did the US NOT want this to happen.)

(Was it US Engineered)?

China’s DOWN MOVE Decoded:

 

So much for the hidden story behind the up move. Why are China stocks crashing? There seem to be two reasons, which when taken together negate the notion of any increase in yuan SDR/ADR allocation (as explained above).

 

  • China’s Hacking U.S. government workers. A June 4th Washington Post article stated that 4 million federal government workers were hacked by China. On June 23rd that number was bumped up to 18 million workers and on July 9th revised up yet again to 22+ million hack victims!

 

This is very serious indeed, as it can lead to blackmail and limitless secrets that can be used for illicit purposes that harm national security. It is undoubtedly an embarrassment for the Obama administration.

 

This is a very challenging situation in our view. It makes the U.S. look weak and can cause a war as these are free waters and not considered part of China by virtually anyone.

 

In my opinion, the above two early June events have probably caused the U.S. to put extreme pressure on the IMF to NOT permit a change of status in China’s Yuan ADR/SDR currency allocation. When the U.S. started to pressure the IMF due to the Hack, the word got out to retail “investors” and the late buyers were forced to sell stocks and take big losses.

 

As evidence that this is occurring it must be asked why U.S. government bonds spiked over 2 full points from a low on June 11th when China topped on June 12th. So bonds made a low, and China a high at the same time for no known reason?

 

 

1. China’s boom/bust example is really a crystal ball view into the psychology of “investors’ around the world today. It’s likely depicting what will happen to the S&P 500 in the future. The only question is when?

 

2. If China does not get the increased reserve currency/ADR gift from the IMF, the payback for their U.S. hack attack and their island building will be very expensive indeed. Why payback? Let’s turn to Samuel Johnson, the famous 18th century English writer:

 

“Revenge is an act of passion; vengeance of justice. Injuries are revenged; crimes are avenged”

 

Good luck and till next time…

http://ep.yimg.com/ty/cdn/realityzone/BearInChinaShop362.jpg

by Victor Sperandeo

Pretty good analysis of the metals

Posted by islandgold @ 0:04 on July 15, 2015  

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-07-14/gold-and-silver-stand-selling-paper-gold-and-silver-finally-ending

… I like and believe in this premise… since Westerns are very much price chasers…

What if gold and silver naturally (in free markets) act as Giffen Goods in the latter stages of a global debt bubble? To recap, a Giffen Good is one that violates the normal laws of supply and demand with people buying more of the good as its price increases.

Intuitively, this makes sense. Rising gold and silver prices should naturally reflect increasing risk to the financial system— especially counterparty risk since gold and silver bullion are the only financial assets which have none (i.e. they are not somebody else’s liability).

Following this argument, if gold has Giffen Good characteristics, the best way to reduce demand from western investors (eastern investors have a natural affinity for gold) would be to reduce the gold price. The point being that any sustained demand for physical bullion from the enormous pools of capital in the western world would hasten the inevitable onset of supply shortage.

silverngold @ 22:24- Good Video-What isn’t mentioned

Posted by Auandag @ 0:04 on July 15, 2015  

Is that these meters can expose you to high rates of electro-magnetism. They are on at all times, relaying info from one to another, to access sparsely located towers. They in fact act like cell phone transmitters. Since each appliance has its own electrical signature they know when and how long you have each appliance on and can switch off any appliance if so desired. Remember when products and services were designed to meet the needs of the consumer. Not any more, they are designed to meet the wants of the corporations and if your safety is comprimised, well that is just too bad!

China ..Worth Watching !

Posted by Ororeef @ 23:59 on July 14, 2015  

 

Craig Stephen’s This Week in China Get email alerts

Opinion: How China’s stock-market muddle may spread to wider economy

Published: July 13, 2015 5:52 p.m. ET

Shutterstock/Filipe Frazao

HONG KONG (MarketWatch) — Despite China’s troubled stock markets finding a floor last week, do not expect any quick return to normality.

The dramatic stock rout and subsequent heavy-handed interference by authorities will not be easily forgotten. It has not just rattled investor confidence, but also damaged the political credibility of President Xi Jinping.

For China’s legions of retail investors, the heavy losses have been compounded by wholesale stock suspensions — with half of Shenzhen and Shanghai stocks still not trading. This is a likely to fuel anxiety so long as investors are trapped in stock positions with no liquidity.

It is also likely to lead to a sea change in investor mood from only weeks earlier, when some were even selling the roof over their head to buy equities. There may be a nasty surprise when the first post-suspension bid prices come in.

Albert Edwards at Société Générale highlights the experience in 2008, when Pakistan suspended trading on the Karachi Stock Exchange to try to “put a floor” under stocks after a share-price slump. This episode left authorities’ reputation in tatters, and when the market reopened, it quickly lost another 52%.

For foreign investors, many of the bizarre interventions by Beijing last week will have raised a number of other, more fundamental questions about the competence of China’s leadership and the true state of the economy.

One area of renewed uncertainty is the ongoing policy commitment to allowing market forces to play a larger role in the economy, a part of Beijing’s larger reform program. The reintroduction of a ban on initial public offerings and spate of stock suspensions set a worrying precedent and will refocus attention on political risk.

This, in turn, will place a cloud of doubt over plans for liberalizing interest rates, the capital account and the domestic bond market. Foreign investors are likely to think twice as they face the risk that the government may simply suspend reforms if prices start going against them. These recent actions suggest the voices of conservatives opposed to market reforms are in the ascendancy.

Perhaps the more worrying take-away is that Beijing’s panicky policy actions may reveal that the economy is in worse shape than is being let on.

The scale and intensity of intervention have drawn parallels with the way governments around the world clamored to shore up the financial system and key companies in the aftermath of the Lehman Brothers collapse and ensuing financial crisis. The big difference then, however, was such moves were meant to protect against systematic risk in the financial system.

The reason the banks are so important — and face greater regulation than do most sectors — is because no other industry has the potential to “blow up” the whole economy. Hence, authorities are justified to stand behind these “too big to fail” institutions.

But intervening to support stock prices is not the same as intervening to make sure individuals do not lose their bank deposits.

This behavior will reinforce suspicions that China’s actual economic situation is worse than reported, given that the government sees potential for systematic risk through contagion from the stock rout.

One factor that may drive such contagion is the large role that margin financing has played in the recent stock-market rally. Most attention has focused on the exposure of individuals, which may not be large enough to create systematic problems.

But there has also been speculation that corporations have become involved in margin trading by using their own stock to obtain bank loans. This would put them in a highly vulnerable situation, as the companies too could face margin calls from banks. It might also explain why so many companies have asked for their stocks to be suspended, as some might face the possibility of banks liquidating their shares.

The other way the equity rally impinges on wider systemic health comes from the way the market has been used in some cases as part of bigger plans to recapitalize debt-laden companies and banks. If we do have an extended bear market, expect the window for new listings to close.

While China is not unique in having a stock-market downturn along with high levels of public and private debt across the economy, the reaction of the authorities suggests they either see a serious risk of contagion or have just lost control.

The difficulty for investors going forward will be anticipating Beijing’s next move. Until there is policy clarity and a fully tradable market, anxiety will linger. Already reports have emerged that wealthy Chinese investors are again targeting property markets in the West to seek safe havens away from the domestic stock market.

If more investors worry about money becoming trapped in China, this could easily lead to further hot-money outflows. In that case, we could quickly see stress in Chinese shares spreading to currency markets, with a risk of yuan USDCNY, -0.0177%  depreciation.

 

 

1000’s of smart meter fires: whistleblower & court evidence (2015)

Posted by silverngold @ 22:24 on July 14, 2015  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Am2_-qHW-T0

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