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This all feels fake

Posted by Buygold @ 10:49 on December 4, 2025  

The action in the paper markets just seems contrived. Repeated attempts to shake the tree knowing full well they can only do it for a day, or even just a few hours. The shares seem to know it today. They are having trouble manipulating the shares and metals together.We saw that with the big down day in the HUI a few days ago. Demand for both must be pretty strong.

I wonder if the news about the 401K’s is part of the reason pm’s have been so strong this year. Big players with inside information front running. Next up will be asset allocation recommendations from the banks.

There’s been no reason for the metals to be weak the last couple days. Just games.

How much is 10 % of 401k’s in Gold

Posted by Maddog @ 10:41 on December 4, 2025  

if roughly $ 37 Trillion is the new available amount and they invest 10 % in Gold….then that means 3.7 T /134400000 = 27529 Tonnes
or 13 % of all the Gold ever mined in the world

Captain Hook

Posted by Maddog @ 9:48 on December 4, 2025  

Great catch …..This is to help drive Gold higher….from what GROK tells me there @ 80 % of 401 K’s that cannot buy the likes of GLD today, which means that of the $ 46 Trillion in 401 K’s $ 37 Trillion can now buy it….

There are 74 million 401’k s////which makes @ 59 million people who can now buy…..and if they only buy 1 oz each…..the mkt needs to find 1843 Tonnes….yup tonnes….which funnily enough means that they have to produce 50 % more next year…..annual production is @ 3600 tonnes…..

They did not think about this …

Posted by Captain Hook @ 9:21 on December 4, 2025  

90 Million Americans Don’t Even Realize Yet They Just Got the Green Light to Buy Gold, Silver, Miners & Commodities In Their 401K’s. Wait Until They Do!

A seismic shift is coming to the investment world. An executive order, signed by President Donald Trump on August 7, 2025, has quietly laid the groundwork for what could be the single greatest catalyst for precious metals and the miners in a generation.

Starting in 2026, the floodgates will open for trillions of dollars in 401(k) retirement accounts to pour into alternative assets, including commodities like gold, silver, and the miners.


For a sector as small as precious metals, this is not just a game-changer; it is a paradigm-altering event.


For decades, the average American investor has been locked out of the assets that the wealthy and institutional players use to build and preserve real wealth.

While pension funds and family offices have long allocated to hard assets like gold and silver, the 90 million Americans in 401(k) plans have been relegated to a narrow menu of stocks and bonds.

This is all about to change. The executive order explicitly aims to “democratize access to alternative assets” for every American preparing for retirement. It directs the Secretary of Labor to relieve the “regulatory burdens and litigation risk” that have prevented 401(k) fiduciaries from offering these assets.


Section 3(a)(iv) is the key: it explicitly lists “direct and indirect investments in commodities” as a permissible alternative asset class.


The Wealth Gap This Order Aims to Close

To appreciate the significance of this order, one must understand the two-tiered system it aims to dismantle. For decades, a great wealth gap has been perpetuated by a simple reality: the rich and the average have access to different investments.

While public pension plans, university endowments, and ultra-high-net-worth individuals have long used gold, silver, and other real assets to generate inflation-proof returns, the average American with a 401(k) has been legally and structurally barred from doing the same due to structural and regulatory hurdles.

The public pension plans, university endowments, and ultra-high-net-worth individuals can more easily invest in a broader range of assets, 401(k)s have traditionally been limited to a narrower selection of investments. This is often due to concerns about liquidity, regulatory complexity, and potential liability for plan sponsors.


This executive order signed by President Trump explicitly calls this out, noting that the status quo has “denied millions of Americans opportunities to benefit from investment in alternative assets.”


It frames the move as a matter of fairness and democratization, giving the 90 million participants in defined-contribution plans the same tools as the most sophisticated institutional investors.

This isn’t just a new investment option; it’s the leveling of a playing field that has been tilted in favor of the wealthy for a generation.

So, Let’s Dig Into The Following:

  1. The trillion-dollar trickle that becomes a flood! “It is crystal clear, this administration wants some of that 401K money to find its way into commodities and that is exactly what is going to happen.”
  2. A catalyst meets an explosive backdrop. “Now, add to all of this perfect storm the single largest potential new source of demand in history: the American retirement account. The stage is set for an explosive 2026.”
  3. The leveraged play on this incoming tsunami of capital. More importantly, the catalyst is not a wave of speculative hot money that can leave as quickly as it arrived. This will be a sustained, structural flow of retirement capital; sticky money that will provide a tailwind for years, not months.”
  4. The capital starvation the mining industry has experienced for 15+ years is coming to an end! “This executive order is the rain that ends the drought. The flood of capital from American retirement plans will not just bid up the price of existing shares; it will provide the mininindustry with a source of growth capital it hasn’t seen in fifteen years.”
  5. Is the timing perfect and intentional? The administration is reading the writing on the wall. They see the mathematical certainty of a debt spiral, the potential for a catastrophic policy error from the Federal Reserve, and the growing fragility of the entire fiat system. Not to mention the likelihood of a huge round of QE and much lower rates fueling fresh inflation and they are handing the American people a lifeboat, an escape-hatch.”…

Thank God for Trump and the return of common sense

Posted by Maddog @ 7:01 on December 4, 2025  

European Carmakers Surge After Trump Rolls Back Fuel Rules

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/european-carmakers-surge-after-trump-rolls-back-fuel-rules

I thought European integration was supposed to reduce the risk of war.

Posted by ferrett @ 5:51 on December 4, 2025  

Anyway, they won’t need that much for reparations. Most of the damage will be in the Donbass and Novorossiya.

I see that Medvedev doesn’t seem to have any doubt as to where, in the EU, the attack should occur. Would that be an attack on the EU or Belgium? Sounds like the Belgians are not keen either way.

I tell you what though, I’d rather have Putin as my country’s leader than any of the other ones. Including whatever type of government he runs. Folk will say it’s a corrupt bunch of oligarchs with him at the top. Almost as if America wasn’t the same.

Europe has lunatics in charge…..they are line dancing in mine fields.

Posted by Maddog @ 5:03 on December 4, 2025  

EU plan to seize £80billion of Russian assets for Ukraine could be enough to justify Putin going to war with Europe, Kremlin official warns

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15351971/EU-plan-seize-80billion-Russian-assets-Ukraine-justify-Putin-going-war-Europe-Kremlin-official-warns.html

Michael Pento

Posted by goldielocks @ 1:16 on December 4, 2025  

People are gonna get wiped out. He should say even more people before this is over. ” End the Fed. ”

Gold Train

Posted by Maya @ 0:17 on December 4, 2025  

Bug Stains on the nose already!
https://www.railpictures.net/photo/890381/

 

Oooops!

Posted by ferrett @ 0:15 on December 4, 2025  

https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/morgan-stanley-quietly-offloading-data-center-exposure-significant-risk-transfers

Looks like someone has finally looked at a cash flow spreadsheet beyond six months and then realised that there will not be enough money to support the lending they have already made. There just aren’t enough trillions for the data centres, the nuclear power stations, the water pipelines and desalinators, the staff poaching from …. somewhere, anywhere, and therefore it’s time to bail while there are plenty of greater fools chomping at the bit.

Dave Hunter

Posted by goldielocks @ 22:53 on December 3, 2025  

Hold on be ready Broncho ride ahead.

One person mentioned Sinclair.He apparently said if dollar goes below 80 trouble.

However according to Hunter watch the dollar. Once it gets down to low 80s watch out that won’t be the issue. . Once it moves toward 120s apparently back up the truck with PMs. Through the crazy years ahead keep that in mind. That PMs you will be okay holding PMs because after a bust it will fly but equities besides a select few not so much. Won’t be the same this time.

 

 

buygold…….

Posted by Maddog @ 22:12 on December 3, 2025  

How much more can you say, before this becomes sedition….?????

https://x.com/greg_price11/status/1996248087874896145

Naked shorting

Posted by Maddog @ 21:58 on December 3, 2025  

Is when a seller sells but does not have the shares to short and never borrows them either and is not called for them….there is a load of anecdotal evidence to support that happening with PM shares….Hedge funds seem to get a pass, where as an average Joe does not.

Then you have the big Bank dealing books, where you trade off mkt on their Dark Pools…..Imagine who regulates them…..

Then you have all the small exchanges….in places like Germany….Use Yahoo Finance to check a miner stock price and you see quotes from Munich, Frankfurt, Hamburg, Dusseldorf etc…..

It is a very murky subject….

One way to mess it up is to put a GTC order miles above the mkt to sell, then yr broker cannot lend yr shares….he has to keep them in house, in case the sell is done, so he can deliver them

silverngold @ 20:28

Posted by ipso facto @ 21:43 on December 3, 2025  

They don’t even need to sell any shares!

Long term the shares may have a run-in with a desperate government but I’m thinking things can hold together for a few more years (maybe). For right now they are in the sweet spot and opportunity is there. Lots of appreciation!

ipso facto @ 19:48…Regarding shorting/naked shorting.

Posted by silverngold @ 20:28 on December 3, 2025  

What other reason would there be for your Broker to “loan out” your shares??… And the Broker in this transaction is the biggest beneficiary (is paid the most) by loaning out YOUR shares. What I “see” is that “they”, the short seller and your Broker, have found a “regulation crack” that these “loaned” shares fall into so they can avoid being called naked short and after they have been used to short your stock, they are just returned to your Broker. Easy for me to see but hard to explain! SNG

ferrett @ 17:29 re: short selling

Posted by ipso facto @ 19:48 on December 3, 2025  

… then you have naked short selling, a different beast entirely. Shorting with book keeping fiddling instead of actually selling the shares. The only reason? To drive a particular share price down. That’s dirty pool!

Buygold … coincidentally , maybe he should be packing his bags! This guy’s the worst.

Posted by ipso facto @ 19:45 on December 3, 2025  

“I can’t believe we’re going to just hand this country over to a bunch of corrupt judges and Marxists. F*ck that.”

James Boasberg Snubs Senate Hearing on ‘Rogue Judges’

https://headlineusa.com/james-boasberg-snubs-senate-hearing-on-rogue-judges/

ferrett re: pie chart

Posted by ipso facto @ 19:40 on December 3, 2025  

Thanks! So can 30% support everyone. I don’t really see the welfare population on there? Lots of immigrants running that number up …

Greg Hunter…Headed For A Derivative Meltdown…. With Bill Holter

Posted by silverngold @ 19:38 on December 3, 2025  

One of his best…IMO!

Headed for a Derivative Meltdown – Bill Holter

Maddog @ 10:51

Posted by ipso facto @ 19:36 on December 3, 2025  

I lost count of how many wedding parties Obama blew up! I would have thought that at a certain point before the attack was launched they could have aborted it?

Greg Reese…Rise of the Safety State….5 minutes…and important. YOU ARE BEING WSTCHED!

Posted by silverngold @ 19:29 on December 3, 2025  

https://gregreese.substack.com/p/rise-of-the-safety-state?publication_id=706779&post_id=180655142&r=poko7&triedRedirect=true

Ferrett, I believe this is a technical point that is either being allowed and/or overlooked. FWIW!

Posted by silverngold @ 18:29 on December 3, 2025  

IMO this has given the shorts, and the governments they work with and for, the ability to keep the markets under/in control, which gives the public the “picture” that “all is well”…. when we know it is NOT…Until the house of cards… ETF’s, Derivatives, etc  collapses under its own weight.  Then we will be “saved” by the same ones who created these current failed monetary systems…the Bankers…. who are setting up the “you’ll own nothing and you’ll be happy” 2030 Digital currency and ID systems, and the “Smart Cities” which become our Mark of the Beast  “prisons without walls” where if you’re an obedient little jabbed Robot and are up to date on your mandatory monthly “vaccines”, you’ll fit right in. After all, we wouldn’t want you to contaminate the rest of us, now, would we?????????? FWIW   SNG

No.

Posted by ferrett @ 17:29 on December 3, 2025  

The short seller cannot return those shares, as he has sold them.

As you say, there is nothing illegal about this. Legal short selling is just giving the punter the opportunity to bet on the share going down. Funny how everyone applauds Burry for doing it in the big short, Tesla etc. when he identifies a looming catastrophe and has the guts to bet on it, but if you see the same opportunity in a miner and act on it you’re a p-o-s.

Once you see it you can’t un-see it….unless you are so addicted to the “casino” you just don’t want to stop gambling there.

Posted by silverngold @ 17:12 on December 3, 2025  

You have a Margin account.

You buy some PM shares.

Your Broker lends those shares, for a fee, to a “short seller”.

The short seller shorts those same PM shares you just bought, thus nullifying your purchase, and he was NOT naked short because he was in possession of the shares at the time he shorted them. All legally done according to the rules, and those PM shares, go no place.

Now the short seller can just return Your shares so Your Broker can show he has your shares and is complying with his  fiduciary relationship between you and your broker.

After all, your broker notified you that he would loan out your shares unless you specifically notified him that you would not allow him to loan out your shares…and how many of you did that?

All done legally in this stock market Casino IMO and why the PM shares can’t get any traction this time. Better get the real thing(s)… SNG

 

Maddog

Posted by Buygold @ 16:55 on December 3, 2025  

Hard to say about the eco numbers. I don’t know if it’s the same people putting out the numbers or if it’s Trump’s people now.

As far as Hegseth they are targeting him big time right now. My bet is that Hegseth is very popular among the rank and file and junior officers. I think that probably scares the crap out of the swamp. There’ll be no coup as long as those loyal to Trump run the military.

I’ll say this though, I’m sick of finding out about all the corruption and illegal acts. If no one is going to jail, what’s the point?

I can’t believe we’re going to just hand this country over to a bunch of corrupt judges and Marxists. F*ck that.

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