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Yes, we are already ruined. I have just read about a mouse experiment on ZH

Posted by ferrett @ 15:52 on December 4, 2025  

The author then applies this to the famous Mouse Utopia experiment of John Calhoun, in which a handful of breeding-pair mice were put in a large artificial “world” with unlimited food and water and space for 6,000 mice. The researchers anticipated the mice would proliferate to the maximum limit of 6,000 and then experience some version of population overshoot.

But this isn’t what happened. The mice population reached 2,200 and then collapsed as anti-social behaviors exploded and reproduction ceased. A wide variety of causal factors have been posited and discussed over the decades since the 1962-72 experiments. The Unified Theory of Model Collapse suggests the core causal mechanism is the mice born in this artificial world of endless abundance “trained” on increasingly artificial data and this disconnect from “raw” real-world experience deranged not just individual mice but the entire society of the artificial world of abundance in a crowded, artificial “urban” environment.

The author suggests the current human population has reached the urban population density (roughly 60% of humanity lives in urban settings) that triggers anti-social behaviors and a rapid decline in fertility / reproduction. Many explanations for the current sharp decline in birth rates in most developed-world economies have been offered, and the Unified Theory of Model Collapse shed important light on the causal mechanisms of artificial environments and abundance.”

We have definitely reached this level in Western societies. Fertility is collapsing. Urban crime, urban, where you already have everything, is increasing. Only our oldest neighbours and friends have any idea about ‘life’. Some of our contemporaries who were brought up by so-called intellectuals (so these acquaintances are advanced by a generation compared to us) are totally brainwashed while considering themselves super-intelligent. The farmers complain that the cities all vote left wing so lunatic ideologies are imposed on them in the name of democracy.

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