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It is What Trump Did Not say That matters Most

Posted by Captain Hook @ 17:33 on September 8, 2025  

Introduction

Silver markets are once again in turmoil as lease rates spike and supply channels tighten. Traders face renewed price dislocations between New York and London, driven by uncertainty over the policy direction of the United States. The fear of tariffs has transformed silver from a niche industrial and financial metal into a potential flashpoint within trade and national security debates.

Executive Order 232 as Catalyst

Over the weekend, President Trump signed Executive Order 232, a measure that clarified tariff policy on critical minerals. The order explicitly exempted gold from any tariff risk. Silver, however, was not mentioned in the final draft. That omission has sparked immediate speculation that silver remains vulnerable to duties.

Essentially, it is what Trump did not say in that order that has caused the nervousness. If silver is treated entirely as industrial and is tariffed, Bullion Banks dealing in Silver rehypothecation could lose access to precious collateral for carry trades and subsequently be caught in a “venue” short squeeze. This was mentioned in the GoldFix Market Rundown this AM.

The contrast is now shaping market behavior. Gold lease rates and exchange-for-physical (EFP) spreads have been narrowing as clarity reduces uncertainty, while silver’s omission has driven the opposite effect. Silver’s lease rates and EFPs are widening, reflecting both the regulatory ambiguity and the scramble to secure immediate supply.

The source of this report is Bloomberg, authored by Sybilla Gross. It highlights how President Donald Trump’s critical mineral policy has introduced fresh volatility into silver markets, adding new layers of complexity for refiners, dealers, and investors.

Bob Coleman of Idaho Vaults notes: SLV ETF Alert Tightness building in Silver. Borrowing fee to short SLV ETF beginning to rise. Lease rates in London at 5%. Price has been the relief valve in the past.

Tariffs and the Critical Minerals Framework

Washington’s decision to classify silver as critical to national security last month set the stage for the current disruption. The classification raised concerns that tariffs could soon apply, sparking defensive positioning. Trump’s earlier April order to investigate critical minerals was the immediate trigger.

“The US market’s concern is that the metal might be subject to tariffs,” Bernard Dahdah, an analyst at Natixis, said in an emailed note.

In anticipation, New York futures rose above the international benchmark as traders priced in risk premiums. Metal holders responded by shipping supplies into the US, tightening London’s pool of available material. The result has been a sharp lift in lease rates, magnifying the supply crunch.

Refiners, Inventories, and ETF Flows

The squeeze on silver was intensified by European refiners’ focus on recasting gold bars, a diversion of capacity prompted by tariff-related confusion. At the same time, London inventories declined as investors increased allocations to exchange-traded funds. These gold and silver ETFs have gained more than 35% and 40% year-to-date, further reducing physical market liquidity.

Market Structure Pressures

The immediate effects are visible in pricing spreads. Silver futures on Comex are trading at a premium of about 70 cents to London spot prices. Meanwhile, short-term borrowing costs for silver in London have spiked above 5% for the fifth time in 2025, compared to a long-term average close to zero.

Forward curves also reflect stress. One-year silver prices have fallen below current spot levels, a rare inversion that indicates stronger demand for immediate delivery. Dealers may be accelerating shipments to the United States in advance of potential levies.

Historical Context of Arbitrage Opportunities

Earlier in the year, similar price distortions created significant trading opportunities.

It was price ructions like these that helped traders at top banks including JPMorgan Chase & Co. and Morgan Stanley mint money earlier this year.

During that period, Trump’s tariff policies generated an unusually wide spread between London and New York, drawing large bullion inflows into the United States. However, once precious metals were temporarily exempted from duties in April, the trade rapidly collapsed. The recurrence of such dynamics underscores the fragility of the current market balance and the vulnerability of silver to political intervention.

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Maddog

Posted by Buygold @ 17:02 on September 8, 2025  

Maybe the folks here are blase, but only because we’ve been through the ringer for so long.

I wonder if others are just getting started.

What is interesting to me is that we are tracking the dollar and rates so closely. We haven’t seen the usual monkey business in a little while.

Buygold @ 14:10 tr News On Hecla Why HL is up over 12% today:

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 15:26 on September 8, 2025  
  • New 52-week high triggered momentum — The stock hit a fresh 52-week high, opening significantly higher and fueling bullish sentiment. MarketBeat+1StockAnalysis

  • Strong fundamentals and positive sentiment — Q2 earnings beat expectations (EPS of $0.08 vs. $0.05; revenue $304M vs. $249M), signaling solid performance. MarketBeat+2MarketBeat+2

  • Institutional buying — Multiple institutional investors, including Dark Forest Capital (+146.8%), MIRAE ASSET (+12.7%), and CPP Investments, have increased their holdings. MarketBeat+2MarketBeat+2

In short: today’s surge is driven by a mix of technical breakout momentum, better-than-expected earnings, and strong institutional support.

French government loses confidence vote….collapses….but Bond rates not worried……so far !!!!!

Posted by Maddog @ 15:09 on September 8, 2025  

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/french-investors-should-brace-further-tempests

Buygold

Posted by Maddog @ 14:25 on September 8, 2025  

Quite here today…..people are getting blase……and that must a danger…..surely….

Buygold

Posted by goldielocks @ 14:24 on September 8, 2025  

BTW If there is a recession. Who’s gonna get a bail out and who’s gonna get more water in their coffee? Keep stacking.

Buygold

Posted by goldielocks @ 14:13 on September 8, 2025  

Stocks are like adding water to your coffee, going into banks that then steal it either directly, lending it out for high interest or diluting it by  printing more. They need a catalyst, the green scam debt is dying so war debt is next. If Trump can get peace they’ll blame the recession on him.  I’m going to be sceptical about companies buying into PM stocks. Are they just stoking the fire like Central banks profiting on debt created by crisis for the masses while they get richer and now divert a asset to them in the form of a stock instead in hopes money will flow to them because they bought it instead.  I don’t think most people want to know who’s really winning anyways.

Quiet here today

Posted by Buygold @ 14:10 on September 8, 2025  

Been looking for news on Hecla – HL. It’s been up 11% all day and above $10 which will open it up to other fund ownership. I’m waiting for AG to break this $9.50 level and get above $10 as well. There seems to be a steady seller here.

Found this little blip:

“Hecla Mining climbed 9% on news of its forthcoming addition to the small-cap S&P 600 index.”

Morning Maddog

Posted by Buygold @ 11:41 on September 8, 2025  

It does look to me that some of the small/micro caps are now starting to see some play. I don’t know if that means we are about to see a pause or if they are going to start participating in this run.

Whatever the case, the sellers in gold and silver seem to have left the building for now.

The after oil plan …

Posted by Captain Hook @ 10:15 on September 8, 2025  

… coming off renewables the central planners will pivot to natural gas … but that will only last a few years.

This is of course the problem with central planners.

Bottom line is oil and gas prices are going through the roof in coming years … with decentralization accelerating … and the new multipolar world getting much larger in terms of mobility.

The market will win in the end.

Mornin all

Seeing as how the PM shares vs Gold has barely rallied

Posted by Maddog @ 10:01 on September 8, 2025  

we are likely seeing the Algo’s still buying Gold selling the shares, into what to them is just another small rally to sell into on the ratio….

We can see that going on here…a strong share opening is yet again being sold down….just now NEM was DOWN 1.3 % !!!!!!!

Which all means at some point they have to buy the shares back…..with no sellers around…..

Maddog

Posted by goldielocks @ 5:31 on September 8, 2025  

Yes it can get complicated. I am just getting more focused on triggers for more conflict and blood shed that goes beyond other borders.

Just watched this video after dealing with some pain causing a sleepless so far night.

We are collectively over 100 trillion in debt. It’s pretty good. Toms rather up beat with a lot of energy.

 

I guess we’ll correct at some point

Posted by Buygold @ 4:44 on September 8, 2025  

Just apparently not today with $3600 and $41 breached. Pretty amazing as the metals were down all night until a short time ago. Someone has decided to come in and buy plat and pall, so maybe that’s giving us a boost.

The dollar is flat, but rates have reversed course and are now down a bip after being up earlier. Bitcoin is flat. Oil popping back up 1.5%. SM up a little.

PM shares are up again with the metals. It appears they are the new darlings of the SM. Hard to imagine what they’ll look like if some real volume starts chasing.

Consumer credit is the only eco data today, not a big market mover.

This appears to be what we’ve been waiting for all these years.

goldielocks

Posted by Maddog @ 4:24 on September 8, 2025  

We will have to differ re Israel….it is a very contentious subject and could wreck this board, if we spend too much time on it….

‘Earle and AI

Posted by Maddog @ 4:17 on September 8, 2025  

AI is massively energy intensive, with the move to renewables being shut down, in the US and although most EU politicians have yet to wake up, the populations are moving against Nut Zero and will elect parties that will stop the Nut Zero madness….demand ain’t going away and in the short run only ‘Fossil fuels can fill the gap…..

Note Brent has 5 perfect waves up from the 2020 low to the May 2022 Hi….which breaks the multi point downtrend from 2009…that down trend has been retested twice…the 2nd time making a point perfect 61.8 retracement of Wave 1……we shud move higher from here in Wave 3 up……

earle

wti range

PM shares still have miles to go vs Gold

Posted by Maddog @ 4:06 on September 8, 2025  

Shares have to quadruple from here, to retake the ratio Hi’s….if gold goes nowhere…if Gold hits the 10 % of US debt level @ 15,000 then we are talking over 8 times… ie Hui @ 43000

Not sure any Fang can do anything like that…..

huigold

Maddog

Posted by goldielocks @ 4:02 on September 8, 2025  

I looked this up after a email from Alex Krainer story but it seemed to me particularly harsh on the British so I passed on that one and had nothing to do with them anyways as far as I know.

According to this video they’ve been doing this, just walking in taking land for awhile. One thing the Brits and America should of never done is allowed the Jewish to claim Israel as a exclusively Jewish country thinking it would never expand. I read somewhere a quote but don’t remember the name something to do with how they are now that if the soldiers knew back then what would happen in the future they would of laid down their arms to the Germans.

Someone I know told me the other day she met a man born in Jerusalem and because he wasn’t Jewish they wouldn’t give him a birth certificate so he’s a man without a country.

goldielocks

Posted by Maddog @ 3:25 on September 8, 2025  

Re Israel and GAza…..the Pally’s are masters at sending out anti Israel propaganda…..if they spent as much time building their country as they spent lieing , they would have something worth protecting.

For some reason the author actually thinks it is a great thing

Posted by ferrett @ 0:26 on September 8, 2025  

that your bitcoin can be lost forever.

https://www.zerohedge.com/crypto/bitcoins-hidden-scarcity-lost-coins-and-silent-supply-shock

Or everybody else’s bitcoin can be lost forever. Whatever, I think it’s curious that the fact that something (which doesn’t really “exist” in a classical form anyway) can be rendered permanently inaccessible could possibly be regarded as a benefit.

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