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Ha! A new article just popped up on ZH.

Posted by ferrett @ 23:18 on June 30, 2025  

I don’t share my opinions because I “get away with it”—I don’t get away with anything. I’ve paid socially, professionally, and even financially. But I do it anyway because the alternative is spiritual death. The alternative is becoming someone who messages critics privately but never takes a public stand, someone who’s perpetually annoyed by others’ courage but never exercises their own.

The difference isn’t ability or privilege. It’s willingness. I’m open-minded and open-hearted. I can be convinced of anything—but show me, don’t tell me. I’m willing to be wrong, willing to change my mind when new information comes to light or I gain a different perspective on an idea, willing to defend ideas I believe in even when it’s uncomfortable.

There are a lot of us right now realizing that something isn’t right—that we’ve been lied to about everything. We’re trying to make sense of what we’re seeing, asking uncomfortable questions, connecting dots that don’t want to be connected. When we call that out, the last thing we need is people who haven’t done the work standing in our way, carrying water for the establishment forces that are manipulating them.

Most people could do the same thing if they chose to—they just don’t choose to because they’ve been trained to see conviction as dangerous and conformity as safe.”

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/cowards-bargain

This leads to bleakness. No matter how much money you have. You aren’t supposed to be allowed to be you, and you realise the forces pitted against you are vast and insidious. It seems easier to keep your head down and go along with the crowd, to let your personality be subsumed into the matrix.

Mr.C, thanks for that.

Posted by ferrett @ 22:50 on June 30, 2025  

But as CGPT just takes a distillation of opinions from the internet I think that’s what would be expected after the first pass. Maybe a question about misallocation of capital, and GDP spent on projects that add nothing to the economy apart from debt might show something.

But even if the GDP was a real thing, and there’s nobody in extreme poverty (just poverty), even the middle class can experience bleakness from the constant control. The one child policy. Social credit score. Lockdown++ during covid. Forced relocations. And bleakness from things not working properly, or having to compromise your principles to keep your job, not being able to practice your religion without risk of arrest and disappearing, stifling bureaucracy and so on.

Ferrett

Posted by goldielocks @ 21:39 on June 30, 2025  

The Romans as far as I know haven’t been surpassed in building skills and long lasting buildings.  They also built them to withstand earthquakes..At what scale of quakes  I don’t know. Japan has been working on that for a long while. That big quake few years back their larger newer buildings survived a 9.

The Romans repurposed volcanic ash and lime for strength.

Yes, many Roman concrete buildings have withstood earthquakes for centuries, showcasing the material’s resilience. The Pantheon, for example, is a testament to Roman seismic-resistant construction. Roman concrete’s ability to withstand earthquakes is partly attributed to its unique composition and the way it was used, including incorporating volcanic ash and lime, which allowed for flexibility and self-healing properties. 

Here’s why Roman concrete was so effective:
  • Volcanic Ash and Lime:
    The Romans combined volcanic ash (pozzolana) with lime and water to create a strong, durable concrete. This mixture, particularly when hot-mixed, allowed for the formation of unique mineral compounds that contributed to the concrete’s self-healing capabilities and overall strength. 

  • Lime Clasts:
    The presence of lime clasts (tiny minerals from lime) within the concrete further enhanced its ability to self-heal cracks, making it more resilient to seismic activity. 

  • Flexibility and Discontinuities:
    Roman construction techniques, such as incorporating arches, vaults, and brickwork within concrete structures, created intentional discontinuities that allowed for slight movements and stress redistribution during earthquakes. This flexibility helped the buildings withstand shaking without catastrophic failure. 

  • Structural Design:
    The Romans understood the importance of structural design in resisting earthquakes. The Pantheon’s thick walls and dome, for example, were designed to distribute weight and resist stress, contributing to its survival. 

  • Long-Term Durability:
    Roman concrete’s ability to harden and become stronger over time, even underwater, contributed to its longevity and resistance to the erosional forces of weather and earthquakes. 

 

 

I asked ChatGPT. Did Chinese living standards rise after 1980 when the USA moved manufacturing over there

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 21:00 on June 30, 2025  

Yes, Chinese living standards rose significantly after 1980, and the shift of manufacturing from the U.S. and other Western countries to China played a major role in that transformation—though it wasn’t the only factor.

Here’s a clearer breakdown:


📈 1. Economic Reforms Started It

  • In 1978, China (under Deng Xiaoping) began economic reforms—moving from a strict command economy to a “socialist market economy.”

  • These reforms:

    • Opened China to foreign investment

    • Decentralized economic decision-making

    • Created Special Economic Zones (SEZs), like Shenzhen, which welcomed foreign companies


🏭 2. U.S. and Global Companies Moved Manufacturing

  • In the 1980s–1990s, U.S. companies began offshoring manufacturing to China due to:

    • Low labor costs

    • Expanding infrastructure (ports, roads, factories)

    • China’s policy of attracting foreign direct investment

  • This move created tens of millions of industrial jobs.


📊 3. Impact on Living Standards

  • Poverty Rate: In 1981, over 88% of Chinese lived in extreme poverty. By 2010, that fell to under 15%, and by 2020, China declared extreme poverty eliminated.

  • GDP per capita (adjusted for inflation):

    • 1980: ~$300

    • 2024: ~$13,000 (World Bank estimate)

  • Urbanization: Hundreds of millions moved from rural areas to cities, where jobs were more plentiful.

  • Access to Education and Healthcare: Both improved dramatically due to higher government revenues and rising household incomes.


🧩 4. Other Factors Beyond U.S. Manufacturing

  • China’s own policies (education, infrastructure, planning)

  • Trade with Europe, Japan, ASEAN—not just the U.S.

  • Internal migration and domestic entrepreneurship


✅ Conclusion

Yes, U.S. manufacturing moving to China contributed significantly to rising Chinese living standards—but it was part of a larger economic transformation led by Chinese policy reforms and global trade integration.

Let me know if you want charts or sources for these data.

Mr Copper – that was a big day for the shares

Posted by Buygold @ 19:27 on June 30, 2025  

Huge volume came in at the end of the day in both silver and gold shares.

I’d like to think that people want to own them going into earnings and they start coming out in July.

Mr.C 12:52, I think she’s right.

Posted by ferrett @ 18:13 on June 30, 2025  

China did not have a decades run of real growth. It appeared that way, sure, as every year China achieved its forecast 5% increase in GDP exactly on target. Not 5.05%, not 4.95%, but 5.00%, a magnificent endorsement of centralised government planning. Then in the noughties the truth started to out, initially with 64m empty apartments (based on electricity non-usage) in 2005? 07? followed soon by the ghost cities, dozens of them, which would have been serviced by ghost infrastructure and created by shadow debt. And sold as investment properties, because property never drops in value. And GDP continued to increase.

Concrete has a limited life, nowadays, because it is reinforced with steel bars so that you can use it in a state of tension. The Romans didn’t use steel, they designed their buildings (see the Pantheon for an example) so that all the concrete members were permanently in compression and didn’t have any members in tension (or they would have fallen apart immediately), but steel rusts, and as it rusts it expands and cracks the concrete, and becomes weaker because there is less metal, and less concrete. The quality of the reinforced concrete determines the rust resistance: quality meaning not just the quality of the mix and the steel, but how well it is poured. In a corrupt environment such as Chinese local government, short term obsolescence is built in. Hence the viaduct collapse at the beginning of the clip. Which is good for GDP, of course.

And the Cap’n is right, because you have the same problem in America, only delayed by a few decades because you used better quality materials and methods. The collapse is built into the system. You have all these high rises, dams, bridges, tunnels, airports, roads, sewers, power grids which are deteriorating. Try looking in the carparks of office or residential blocks over forty years old, and see if you can see concrete repairs at the bases of the pillars. They are only plastering over the rusty reo, there is no replacing the lost strength. There are many trillions of infrastructure replacement costs coming down the line at you, and no budget for it.

As Hooky says, the system is bankrupt. And infrastructure is only a part of it. Health care, bankrupt both morally and financially. Manufacturing, shredded and not coming back despite the tariffs – some of the deals being made are simply relocating the offshoring, e.g. China to India or Vietnam. Debt, debt and more debt. Bureaucracy, that great enabler of collapse, is receiving a bit of a setback in selected areas like EPA, Green New Deal, wokeness; but the underlying trend is more and more regulations.

All the failed promises of the CCP are coming home to roost. No prosperity, no permanent rise in house prices, no jobs, compulsory scrapping of perfectly good EV’s so you have to buy a new one, ditto white goods, gotta keep the factories running, keep the hierarchy happy with good figures …. bleak? Yeah, I think so. I’m impressed that they’ve got the mental and emotional energy to protest. Many of the youth are just lying flat, and why not? When you can’t see any hope of the light at the end of the tunnel being turned back on, and your every action is tracked.

Fight back, Cap’n? When, as you say, it’s already gone? Futile, I think, and it only makes yourself a target. Prepare, though, as you say, prepare by organising locally so when supply chains collapse you still have food. Learn skills. Keep a low profile. Educate your kids and grandkids, for all this too will pass and they need to be ready to rise like phoenixes.

Hey Dog

Posted by goldielocks @ 16:34 on June 30, 2025  

Is Carney controlling the borders and representing the people and Canadian culture like minded people were once draw to that would assimilate or is it s globalist they don’t seem to understand anyways or they would already have multi imports and exports, vs allies or trading priority  What Americans might be watching is dollar numbers and circumstances charges and overcharges including all the middle man. Sending anything to Canada is ridiculous. Middle men want their cut. How much is it worth so they can tax you for it.  Like how much is he charging the new buyers compared to America.

Buygold

Posted by goldielocks @ 16:00 on June 30, 2025  

That’s great news. Yes exercise and cardio is good for many reasons. It’s also there things you did including now focused on exercise, diet and supplements to keep up your immune system to keep it away now.   You health and diet decisions and frame of mind had a lot to do with it and helping the doctors and treatments to work together.

I looked this up but might not include avoiding too much stress that includes constant doom and gloomers and advice they themselves wouldn’t take and notice most of them are old not young and drain positive energy and getting enough sleep. We have connections to the elders but that was then, they were different some good some bad. I remember elders telling me to be careful with elders because they will drain your energy. I didn’t quite understand because compared to today’s ready made easier life they seemed to have a lot of energy. Learned later it’s more psychological which then can cause physiological hormone changes that can be negative and affect outlooks negatively and depends on the person.

I looked this up not to drag things out in detail.

Prevent cancer through several mechanisms, including maintaining a healthy weight, regulating hormones, and boosting the immune system. Regular physical activity is associated with a reduced risk of developing various cancers, such as breast, colon, endometrial, and esophageal cancers. 

Here’s a more detailed breakdown:
  • Weight Management:

    Excess weight, particularly obesity, is a known risk factor for many cancers. Exercise helps control weight, reducing the risk associated with obesity. 

  • Hormone Regulation:

    Exercise can help regulate hormones like estrogen and insulin, which, when elevated, can promote cancer cell growth. 

  • Immune System Boost:

    Regular physical activity strengthens the immune system, enabling it to better identify and eliminate abnormal cells, including cancer cells. 

  • Reduced Inflammation:

    Exercise can reduce chronic inflammation, which can damage tissues and increase the risk of cancer development. 

  • Improved Digestion:

    Exercise can help food pass through the digestive system more quickly, potentially reducing the exposure of the colon to harmful substances. 

  • Overall Health Benefits:

    Exercise improves cardiovascular health, reduces fatigue, and enhances overall well-being, all of which can indirectly contribute to cancer prevention. 

While the exact mechanisms are still being researched, studies consistently show a link between physical activity and reduced cancer risk. For example, the American Cancer Society has found that exercise is linked to lower risk for 13 different types of cancer. 

Re Silver Has Anyone Noticed?

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 15:08 on June 30, 2025  

Silver is down a tiny bit today but AGQ and all the Silver miners are up. Maybe its because the general stock indices are higher today

Adog

Posted by Buygold @ 13:57 on June 30, 2025  

I hope Carney turns out to be the guy you’re looking for. It is certainly a good thing for Canada to find other trading partners and increase exports.

I view him similar to the Captain, as the same as the EU and UK elites. So I guess if you like what you see going on over there then he’s the guy.

maddog, Ipso, adog

Posted by Buygold @ 13:40 on June 30, 2025  

Thanks for the well wishes. Have a few more weeks before the chemo leaves my body. I’ve been on a lot of steroids and have put on 20 lbs. and have a bit of a moon face going, so time to get those out of my system as well. Fortunately, I was able to keep the majority of my workouts intact. I think that helped a lot, certainly a lot more than people might know. I believe there’s something about getting your heart pumping and increasing circulation. I have no proof, just a hunch.

As with all major events in our lives, we hope that there is a purpose or reason for why we need to go through certain things, something to learn about ourselves. God had some lessons in this for me, a change in the way I think about certain things, myself, and those close to me. I hope that the lessons will stick, and I don’t disappoint. 🙂

Now, the big question is how will my hair grow back? Will it be curly? Red? I guess some people’s hair comes back different. 🙂

Captain Hook @ 12:23 re She Says Life in China is bleak …

Posted by Mr.Copper @ 12:52 on June 30, 2025  

I strongly suspect she is wrong or just lying. China had decades of very good years even more than the USA had from 1945 to 1975. We created 350 million new middle class people there and they built up their military and today is considered the worlds second biggest economy after the USA. So they are going into a transition with a loaf under each arm, like the USA did after 1971.

After the idiots running America started giving our jobs our jobs away after 1970, they made us survive by creating unneeded work like the environmental protection agency jobs and all kinds of dumb ass jobs that created NOTHING of value. like tax supported solar and EV cars. The USA (and gold) are finally getting better since 9/11/01 tipping point.

I remember when all our machine shops started closing up around our 1970 peak prosperity here. People losing jobs started selling used cars or going into gov’t jobs or retail jobs, which were ok until the growing poverty here got bad enough and taxes high enough, to get Trump elected, and he’s helping the transition back to what we were before 1970. Hopefully they didn’t start too late.

But things that have to happen, eventually do happen, like the end of Chinese production and the beginning of US production of things that have value. I was in manufacturing since 1962 and I considered manufacturing like legal counterfeiting. We are not allowed to make $100 bills, but we are allowed to make things that can be exchanged for $100 bills or worth $100.

Life in China is bleak …

Posted by Captain Hook @ 12:23 on June 30, 2025  

… communism is being installed in the West … if we don’t do something about it.

The credit scores and carbon credits will make life miserable .

In case you haven’t figured it out yet … the system is bankrupt and what is left is being exploited by central planners before the big collapse.

So, whatever you have in the system is already gone … even if you can’t see it.

So, get as much as you can out and organize locally for continued centralized attacks on your liberty and wealth.

It’s already gone folks.

So, you have nothing to lose by fighting back.

This is what the people in China are reacting to now … this realization … even if it’s late.

Hopefully not too late.

Fight back while you still have power … before it’s too late.

Cheers all

Buygold

Posted by adogsbody @ 12:18 on June 30, 2025  

Good to hear your great news.

Carney is certainly a breath of fresh air compared to his predecessor. Not difficult

He has decided to put some of his beliefs aside for the benefit of reshaping Canada.

Canada is a small country of only 40 million people. Compare this to the trillions of dollars of resources.
The future can be very exciting for all. The short term will be very challenging but trade diversification is job one now. We were caught flat footed when Trump illegally reneged on his own free trade deal. This deal the (paraphrasing) “greatest free trade deal ever negotiated by any US president in history”

Wheat and soya exports are already picking up here as customers look for more trusted suppliers.

Dog

Buygold @ 11:13

Posted by ipso facto @ 11:57 on June 30, 2025  

Great news Buygold! Couldn’t have heard better news today! Excellent!

This is how communism works …

Posted by Captain Hook @ 11:35 on June 30, 2025  

… not everybody is equal … that’s a lie the gullible and weak swallow.

While Cuba plunges into misery, Manuel Anido Cuesta, the stepson of communist dictator Díaz Canel, lives in luxury in Madrid: yet another case of communist nepotism and cynicism.

Just watch (the move) or read Orwell’s Animal Farm … and you will understand how all this works …

It’s because the pigs are serial liars and crazed (just like our leaders and bureaucrats) – and barnyard animals are barnyard animals.

Chuckle

ferrett

Posted by Maddog @ 11:34 on June 30, 2025  

That Moroccan scam was never going to work…….first off the Sahara is almost as bad as the North Sea, for a hostile environment ..it is constantly shifting and would cover the panels over time…secondly the resistance moving electricity that far, would probably mean you couldn’t boil a kettle, with what came out in the UK.

Buygold

Posted by Maddog @ 11:28 on June 30, 2025  

Wow…that is such good news……well done.

Pretty good day

Posted by Buygold @ 11:13 on June 30, 2025  

After four rounds of chemo I am cancer free, plus the shares are outperforming after the nasty smash on Friday.

Good as it gets.

Yeah Captain

Posted by Buygold @ 11:10 on June 30, 2025  

Israel took a much bigger beating than they allowed to be reported. I think they HAD to agree to the ceasefire, because they couldn’t stop the onslaught and as you say we are running out of ammo for them.

Otherwise, they would continue to bomb, there is just no way in Hades that Netanyahu would take orders from Trump. If he’s hellbent on war, he’s going to pull the trigger anyway. They just bombed southern Lebanon a couple of days ago, but hopefully he’s sane enough not to use nukes.

OTOH, time is getting short, and the Lord will move the chess pieces however he wants.

Canada is in deep trouble. It will be interesting to see how the vote for secession goes in Alberta and Saskatchewan. They hold all the cards for Canadian energy. Carney is the worst of the worst Globalists. They have destroyed the white nations of the west. I haven’t given up on us just yet, but I think we can be expecting a false flag blamed on the Iranians anytime now in an attempt to get WWIII going, especially after the Ayatollah’s “FATWA” order.

If you think things are wild in Chicago (any big city with Muslims) …

Posted by Captain Hook @ 10:52 on June 30, 2025  

… just wait … jihads are coming …

Muslim Immigrant Recruited For Jihad in Chicago | The Gateway Pundit | by Seth Segal

Who would have thought?

Obviously somebody … or what else are they doing here? (think the international bank cabal)

You will be going to war in the streets with these characters and they will have better (gov’t supplied) weapons than you.

But hey – life’s a blast – pass the joint please – I’m coming down.

Chuckle

Canada is going cashless … following the EU …

Posted by Captain Hook @ 9:41 on June 30, 2025  

It won’t be long now the carbon credits system will be installed (Carney and his buddies will make a fortune) and you will be eating bugs once your credits are used up (oh and no more foreign holidays if you want to eat – no more flying).

Coming to a country you live in soon.

Have a nice day.

BREAKING: The EU Plan To FREEZE ”Unused” SAVINGS is SPREADING To The Rest of The World!

Posted by Captain Hook @ 8:50 on June 30, 2025  

This should wake a few people up – only a few though – oh – and I don’t agree with his prospects for crypto (the internet will not be free soon so good luck using it).

Nahhh … that will never happen here … Trump is a nice guy … right?

People are dumbed-down, drugged, and delusional.

They will awaken when forced to eat bugs because all their money has been stolen by cabal parasites.

Chuckle

The War Machine Is Out of Control — And It’s Coming for YOU | COL. Douglas Macgregor

Posted by Captain Hook @ 8:42 on June 30, 2025  

You have to like this guy. Broad and up to date intelligence for his fellow man – it’s not looking good for Isreal right now. (will they use nukes?)

 

The West is running out of missiles, and they will need a lot of silver to make new ones. So the cabal will do everything they can to hold it back. It won’t work anymore with investors scooping up all the available physical silver remaining now.

The silver chart looks great. (Wave IV off the April low complete?) A close above $36 today is a significant buy signal. A close just below $36 is still a buy signal.

It’s win – win for silver right now.

Here we go to $70 (thank you Michael Oliver Get Ready For A Downturn Unlike Any We’ve Seen Before | Michael Oliver – YouTube)

Mornin all

Couldn’t hold of course

Posted by Buygold @ 7:54 on June 30, 2025  

The dollar didn’t come back but the dollar hasn’t mattered for a couple of weeks now.

Hopefully this doesn’t morph into a beating.

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